Hear me out for a minute: Floyd would beat Sugar Ray Robinson

true Lamotta is like a Baldo with more strength chin power and athletic ability. Sugar Ray gave up something like 15 to 20 pounds in their early fights. You only get to see an older version of Ray a bit over the hill and still he kicks ass with the best at 2 divisons over his best weight class. A fighter like Ray was much more experienced than a PBF. His craft well honed and seasoned to perfection. The guy fought fought what 75% more fights at welter than PBF. He also had the incredible gifts that PBF has, but is bigger stronger and more experienced. Great big man beats a Great little man. Ray all the way

 

Complete bollocks from start to finish. There is no logic to what you say as we have video evidence that boxing skills and fitness have declined enormously from the 60's onwards. It seems on these bords there are all sorts of proponents of 'modern' training methods, and what are they exactly? A speed bag is still a speed bag, a heavy bag is still a heavy bag and a rope is still a rope. It's all complete crap

 

**** I just came off watching Juan Ponce de Leon and he is a ****ing Champ!!!! so from todays prespective you have no point.

 

Good point. If you put that guy in black and white and the screen was crackling with some old commentator, he would be a primary example of the kind of bum which could never be champ today.

 

Would Sugar Ray Robinson duck Cotto!!!!!!

 

The only way he beats SRR is if they fought today. End of story

 

Ya have to ask yourself: How much of Floyd's brilliance would still be there after another 60-70 fights? SRR wasn't just magnificent, he was one tough SOB.

Floyd's talking now about aches and pains. Just imagine him at the top of his game with twice as many fights.

Bear that in mind when you consider them head-to-head.

 

First of all Floyd wouldnt have fought 60 fights. I saw the video an 75% of the people on the video were SLOW WHITE GUYS. Who in the hell gets hit with a haymaker coming from the hip? Watch the video. Half of the time SRR starts from the Body throws 4 or 5 punch combos and works his way up to the head. I would've have picked SRR, but after that video, I would pick Floyd. When have you ever seen Floyd go BLINDLY toe-to-toe with anyone. Anyone who has traded with Floyd has paid dearly and not by being KO'd but by being outsmarted by throwing 15 punches and walloped with two or three good punches; result waste time and come away with FACE SWELLING. 12 rounds of that and you get frustrated. If they fought in that day 15 rounds and you end up with brain damage.

 

Do I detect a hint of RACISM in this post?

 

Sugar Ray would have called out Winky only to run from him when he accepted the challenge.

 

Ray - The greatest and undefeated Welterweight of all time, then 5 time Middle champ loosed to Peanut Brittle Hands Jnr lightweight?

Never.

This board has threads started by people who have been watching boxing for 10 minutes...

 

Would he turn down 8 million for an "easy" fight as well?