Hear me out for a minute: Floyd would beat Sugar Ray Robinson

With the power that Robinson had in both hands......he would slice through mayweather's defence as if it was butter, and just knock him the **** out

However, there are alot of things to take into the account, the size of gloves, the number of rounds, the refereeing back then was also brutal, as soon as a fighter got up they let him right back into action, nowadays they take about 10 seconds untill they ask them if they are ok or not. Robinson fought under harsher conditions in boxing and he came out on top.
Mayweather wouldnt be able to fight with those small gloves , he'll break all the bones in his hands, but it would contribute to his speed, while Robinson's power in bigger gloves would be reduced. The level of competiton back then could have been weaker, but SRR beat everyone, he beat alot of very good fighers as well, and he beat them soundly.

After taking all these factors to the account, i still pick Robinson.

 

In a interview with Roger Mayweather (who is a big supporter of Floyd), they asked him how well Floyd would do against Robinson. Roger said Floyd would be competitive but he may not win. The interview was posted on ESB about 2 weeks ago.

 

Good post. A lot here I wouldn't have thought about.

 

Robinson fought 200 pro bouts and was never knocked out, only getting stopped by heat exhaustion vs light heavy champion Joey Maxim. Robinson fought many of his fights at middleweight and in his late 30s and early 40s, clearly way past his prime, vs bigger younger fighters, yet was still never knocked out.

Floyd has fought 37 fights, less than 20% of the number Robinson fought, and he has never fought past his prime. By that alone we can say that Robinson's chin is far more tested.

Many fighters have not been KOd, until they met a good boxer with power, or a real big hitter, then they go down. With only 37 fights and hardly any vs big hitters, you just can't say that someone has a proven all-time great chin. Robinson on the other hand fought two hundred times, against many hall of famers, and was never knocked out. That is a proven granite chin over 2 decades of fighting over 28 lbs in weight classes.

There is simply no comparison. Floyd's chin has not been tested much, Robinson's was tested more than almost any other fighter. Robinson's stood up to that test, and is therefore one of the best. Floyd's we don't really know, any more than we knew Roy Jones's chin - until Tarver and Johnson showed how ordinary it was.

The 3 of you who tried to compare chins are basically flat out wrong.

 

NFL teams of today probably outweight NFL teams of 50 years ago, in every position, by at least 30 pounds. In boxing, that type of advantage is negated outside of heavyweight because of weight classes. Robinson would still be the bigger, stronger man than Floyd. Ray was 6 feet tall, at least as fast as Mayweather, and carried one punch KO power all the way up to middleweight. You have to be kidding me if you think Mayweather is some how physically superior to Robinson.

 

Not EVERY punch. I think Floyd probably has a better jab to the body. I certainly don't think that is enough to make a difference, but his body jab is really good...

 

some of your points are true, the younger generation always finds a way to be better than the old ones. This is because the old ones left a template on what is effective and what is not. This is then learned by the younger ones from the start of their careers, so yes they have higher possibilities of beating people from the past. Thats why its stupid to keep matching up fighters from the past and the present.

 

Bums like Zivic, Fullmer, Basilio, Angott, LaMotta, Gavilan, who somehow managed to pick up world titles and get into the Hall of Fame.

Sure thing.

 

guess he doesnt really know SRR's background. :yep

 

But the point is that Robinson was beating world champions and Hall of Famers, many of whom were a weight division above him, and several of these wins were in his mid to late 30s. Many really great fighters were shot before 35 e.g. Ray Leonard, Ali, Hearns, Roy Jones Jr. Robinson was not only not shot, not only winning world titles, he was doing it 13 lbs above the fighting weight of his prime. That is pretty extraordinary. Only a small handful of fighters have been world champions above 35 years old, and hardly any of them in higher weight divisions than their prime.

Now consider that Floyd is the naturally smaller guy, and that all our footage of Robinson is past his prime and one division (which is worth 2 modern divisions) above his prime weight. The odds just stack more and more against Floyd. Let's see how many titles Floyd wins when he is 35+. If he's still beating linear world champions from time to time, then he can make a P4P challenge to Robinson. But he would still be the smaller man in a head to head, so still the underdog.

 

I'll add full to the fire I would pick Robbinson to win, but Mayweither could win.
Robinson is biger and the agresor. Mayweither tends to be a slow stater which is dangures aganst an offensive master like Robinson. An early round ko is posibble, and if Mayweither did manage to survive the early rounds there is a good chance that even with a strong finish he could get enough points to win. The result would be Robinson by decision.
However if Mayweither could manage to get going by the fith round I think Mayweither has a good style and the skills to efectivly put it to use aganist Robinson.
I'm loseing focus on what I want say. So I will simpelfy it.
Robinson is the most likly winnr of a match up between the two. However a Mayweither win is not as absured as many of you think it is.

 

PBF ,et al., all present day fighters, have the luxury of being taught about the sweet science of boxing. They watched videos of great fighters from the past and studied their moves. Through the years, these moves has been passed from generations to generations and produced these great fighters we have today. Now imagine this. SRR having the same advantage. Who knows what he could have done!? SRR's physique was extra ordinary.