Hearn and AJ want Wilder fight agreed before Dec 1st

There's a world of difference between sitting down and talking about a deal, talks which could include demands Wilder is paid more after beating Fury than he is currently being offered, and signing a contract drafted some weeks ago. Surely you can tell the difference between talks and a legally binding contract?

 

Nope, it will potentially prove that he’s a box office draw in the U.S, which is the problem in terms of splits. Wilder’s already big in the UK in terms of his connection to Joshua. The demand for that fight among the casuals in the UK can’t really get any bigger.

Wilder does good PPV Numbers in the U.S though, and that changes things.

 

I live in the UK. Beating Fury would raise Wilder's profile for sure. I agree his profile is better than prior to his Belfast trip but beating the unbeaten Fury would raise it further....

 

I think he means second least entertaining right behind Lawrence Okolie.

 

How can Finkel effectively negotiate the correct value of his client when he can't factor in Wilder's raised stock for beating Fury? Hearn knows this all too well. There's more than four months from Wilder vs Fury until April 2019. There's absolutely no need to set a December 1 deadline to strike a deal. It's not like Hearn has an issue getting a deal over the line for Whyte should he need to. He only needs to negotiate with his shaving mirror in that case. That wont take four months. Four minutes more like....

 

Lawrence 'The Octopus' Okolie...

 

We're not talking about Finkel. Yes, he wants to meet in October, but we have no idea what his agenda is. He might be planning to set out revised terms assuming his fighter beats Fury, terms that can only be relevant after the fight.

So let's flip this. Give me one good reason why Hearn is setting the deadline prior to the fight on December 1 other than the one I have suggested which is to eliminate the fact that Wilder's value will increase after a Fury win? So far you have offered no alternative theory other than mention Finkel wants to meet. Parking that one ambiguous aspect for a moment, what is Hearn's motivation for the deadline being set before the Fury fight?

 

But raising his profile in isolation, in say, Wilder himself being a draw, is not going to happen. Wilder’s profile in the UK, regardless of how he does, will remain in connection to another fighter, and that’s why his profile is already massive here, because he’s connected to Joshua as his nemesis.

Now if Wilder were to come here, do various fights, and do good PPV numbers as the main act then I would agree with you. My point being, the demand for Wilder/Joshua in the UK is already massive, but unless Wilder can create a demand in the UK for Wilder vs Whoever, his profile here will not grow anymore.

But the US PPV is something Joshua hasn’t cracked, and is is potentially what will give Wilder a much better hand.

Hearn’s argument has always been, “Wilder isn’t known in his country”. This could change that.

 

Meh, getting bored with it. Make a fight or shut the **** up.

 

If Fury wins I'd expect Wilder will be exercising rematch clauses ASAP, unless it's such a beating that he doesn't think he can win. I just don't see that happening. I think Wilder's going to annihilate Fury. If he doesn't I think the Las Vegas judges and referee will do it for him.

 

Lawrence Okolie hears this and resolves to work even harder in the gym....