Hearn: Chisora can beat Wilder

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  1. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    How couldn't Paint Dry, with all of his skills, punching power, physical toughness, great "chun", and wealth experience from having a very good "CV", not stock a useless opponent like Cojanu?
     
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  2. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Would you say the same about Fury going the distance against the likes Wallin, Pianetta and Kevin Johnson?
     
  3. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Mitch doesn't do context, unless it suits.

    In none of those bouts did Fury press for a stoppage. He simply thoroughly outboxed his opposition, and coasted to victory.

    Paint Dry, like he did versus Shades of Ali, put it on Cojanu all night, and was flailing around like a blind man swinging away at thin air, in pursuit of the KO.

    While Fury looked like a class above, with another 3 or 4 gears to exhaust, Paint Dry looked pitiful.
     
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  4. Astro

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    What really made me sad was when Eddie Hearn said that Chisora is still fresh and has not slowed down.

    Eddie Hearn needs a reality check.
     
  5. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    That's the line Hearn would actually use to justify feeding Chisora to Wilder.
     
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  6. I Shot JR

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    As a comeback fight for Wilder after the Fury loss Chisora isn’t the worst opponent however I don’t see Wilder travelling to the UK at this stage of his career unless it’s for a lot of money.

    Hearn would clearly like to make Joshua/Wilder if Usyk wins the rematch.

    Wilder/Chisora would almost certainly end with Chisora being knocked out but it’s a decent top 15 heavyweight fight with two names in the division.
     
  7. EJC83

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    He'd say that about Danny Williams if he could make some decent coin out of him
     
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  9. NEETzschean

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    "I can't understand your argument for Wilder to the faster puncher than Parker."

    Wlad (a very fast SHW himself) stated that Wilder was "extremely fast" when comparing him to AJ. With a single punch, Wilder covers distance more quickly than Parker.

    Fury is 6'8, 270 lbs and a seasoned inside fighter, Parker is 6'3, 240 lbs and not known for inside fighting proficiency. Fury outmuscling 6'7, 230 lbs Wilder does not mean that Parker would.

    You claim that Whyte and Chisora are "known powerful punchers" but Fury isn't when the KO records of the former are far inferior to Fury, despite Fury often boxing off the backfoot. Wilder is a much bigger puncher than all of them.

    Wilder was dropped once in his 43 fight career prior to Fury 2. Molina (who is a bigger puncher than Ruiz) stunned Wilder but didn't hurt him badly, Ortiz hurt Wilder badly but Wilder only needed a round to recover and compared to Parker, Ortiz is a dynamite puncher. He trashed Cojanu in 2, who took Parker 12. He battered and stopped Allen in 7, who took Whyte the full 10. He smashed Jennings in 7, who took Wlad, Rivas and Joyce 12.

    Wilder has fought Fury three times, twice when he was the No.1 HW. His opposition in the last 4 years has been stronger than AJ's and far stronger than Whyte's. This isn't 2014 or even 2017 anymore.

    I can't believe you list Dimitrenko as being an impressive win for Parker lol. Why not Cojanu, who gave Parker a much tougher fight?

    One common thread of Parker's best wins is that there isn't a KO and scarcely a KD among them. Another is that there are many MD's, SD's and close UD's to mediocre opposition. Parker has also lost to worse fighters (AJ and Whyte) than Wilder has lost to.
     
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  10. Mitch87

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    The reason why Fury has such has a higher KO record is the level of opposition he fought to Parker and Whyte. Yes Fury fought the best opponent of the 3 in Qlad but outside of this his resume has a lot of very low quality opposition outside of Wlad, Chisora and Wilder. For example from 15 fights onward Gury has fought the likes Flirtha, Pjakic, Rogan, Maddone, Johnson, Cunningham, Abell, Hammer, Sefrei, Pianetta, Schwarz and Wallin.

    To point that Wilder fought the "number 1" in Fury is dubious as he made number off the back only 2 wins in years against journeymen outside the top 50. Fury was also placed ahead of Ruiz at the time of draw against Wilder, which is again dubious as Ruiz beat the ranked number in Ring in AJ so surley he should be number 1 after beating top guy?

    Whilst comparing wins to Wilder the likes of Whyte has beaten 4 opponents as good if not better Ortiz in Povetkin, Parker, Chisora x 2. Whilst Parker has beaten Ruiz, Chisora and Hughie. Even beating Takam is more impressive than any win Ortiz has in his career.
     
  11. aaaaa

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    Great post. Blown the CV’s to bits.
     
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  12. aaaaa

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    Also can we never include the words ‘Dimitrenko’ and ‘resume’ in the same sentence again please.
     
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  13. aaaaa

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    Fury drew with Wilder 6 months before Ruiz beat Joshua. I’m losing faith in the CV’s here.
     
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  14. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ was still number 1? So how comes when Ruiz beat him he didn't go number 1 not number 3?

    It would be like if wlad came out now retirement now beat 2 journeyman outside the top 40 and drew against a 2 contender (currently AJ) would he deserve to placed at number 3 ahead of the other top 10 guys?

    I disagree with that logic.
     
  15. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chisoras trainer has come out and blasted Hearn for suggesting Wilder next for Chizzy. This is a total embarrassment and shame for Hearn.
     
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