Hearn confirms 50m is real

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  1. Popnvg

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    That is why i believe it didnt come from Haymon.The money is probably from Showtime and Vegas Casinos...Watch how Hearn mentions Showtime at the beginning of the video regarding the Money
     
  2. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    You need to understand the uk is a small island so it's far easier to have a big following. Brand Joshua was already in overdrive by the time he challenged Charles Martin. It went even higher after he picked up the IBF belt.

    The hype and brand of Joshua began after he became illegitimate Olympic gold champion. So had far more sponsorship and endorsements behind him. He was on more all less every sports advert whilst making appearances on talk shows and terrestrial channels pumping endless documentaries about him before he even faced a body.

    Amir Khan was in a similar position when he first burst on to the scene because he was sold as some golden child after winning silver(correct me if I'm wrong on that last point)

    So there is your answer, Joshua was a household name in the uk due to hype and branding and the british public attended in droves to see the hero they had been programmed to worship until the next bag of meat turns up to be sold, whilst Wilder isn't a name in the U.S which has a far extensive and wider boxing demographic in a bigger country.
     
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  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Do you think money comes out of Eddie Hearn's pocket when he is offering Wilder 12 million?

    Who cares where the money is coming from, the fact is it is there.

    The only thing people should care about is that fight gets made.

    It's on record the offer is real, which I revealed many weeks ago.

    So if Joshua turns that deal down, because he is afraid of fighting in the U.S - even though him and hearn has always declared their intention to one day fight in Vegas - then it's the biggest duck in boxing history since he would recieve the biggest purse in HW boxing ever.
     
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  4. CutThroatFade

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    Without doubt, if Joshua does what I suspect he will and insists on the fight being in the UK it will go down in history as the most shameful duck in pugilistic sport.

    The guy gave a bold interview where he said “offer me 50 mil then and I’ll sign ... it’s not real” and now look at him squirming.

    Deontay has punk’d Hearn and Joshua so bad here. Called their bluff and delivered the money.

    As Iron Mike said to Bob Sapp years back: “SIGN THE CONTRACT BIG BOY, SIGN THE CONTRACT”.
     
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  5. Walter Sobchak

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    I can't imagine how annoyed you'll be if Joshua and Wlider actually agreed to fight this year.

    "BUT...BUT...HE'S MEANT TO DUCK IT ARGGGGGHHHHH!"
     
  6. Brighton bomber

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    Well according to what I've read it's about loyalty to the British public. It's their support that has seen him rise to be the cash cow of the division and he feels a responsibility to repay that support by not simply jumping over to the US for the money as so many other British fighters have done in the past.

    But I think that's only part of it. Any fighter wants home town advantage if he can get it. There is definitely and advantage for Joshua if it's made in the UK just as there is an advantage for Wilder if it's in the US.

    Joshua said to Hearn he's willing to take 5 mill less to get it made in the UK. So his responsibility to the UK public does have a price which kind of undermines what he said before. Though money talks in this game which is understandable a boxers career is a short one, even Joshua will bend to the influence of more money.
     
  7. Dirsspaardis

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    If true, that’s awesome.
    That’s what AJ and Hearn asked for - proper negotiations that can be taken seriously.

    Not sure how some can shout “I told you Wilder was for real “ on here though. The way it was handled was all wrong, specially the part where negotiations after Hearns “we’re interested” got dropped twice, claiming they’d be useless.

    Anyway, if Hearn is in talks with Haymon, things are moving ahead which is great.
     
  8. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    :lol: You think a former drug dealer, who abandoned his baby son and mother, is avoiding a mega 50 million payday because he cares abut the fans?

    Hahahahahahahahaha

    I've heard it all now.

    The excuses for ducking are legendary
     
  9. CutThroatFade

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    **** off mate I want to see the fight.

    The people who will be annoyed are the ones who ridiculed Wilder’s offer.

    I mentioned two such fan boys in my first reply - note that neither has appeared in this thread.
     
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  10. CutThroatFade

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    You are a decent poster on here mate but this is honestly laughable. Joshua is a vicious boxer with bad intentions in the ring and he is also a ruthless businessman. If you honestly think he wants the fight in the UK “for the fans” you are totally delusional. He wants the fight at home because it will improve his chances of winning FfS.

    This is a guy who send a DM proclaiming his race to be “superior”. If you really think he cares deeply about his legion of casual, largely white, fan boys and fan girls you are so delusional.

    He’s in this game to beat people up, win and make money.
     
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  11. Brighton bomber

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    He won't be annoyed, he'll just skip over that little detail and focus on something else to criticise Joshua for. We saw the same thing happen a number of times on this forum from Joshua critics.

    Joshua was said to be ducking Wlad, that the idea of unification with Wlad was just PR from Hearn as they'd never take such a Big risk so soon. Fight gets signed, critics go into hiding, Wlad gets injured fight is off, critics crawl out from under their rocks and say "Told ya so, Joshua ducking Wlad!" Fight then gets signed again, Joshua critics again go quiet and then pick a new way to criticise Joshua.

    Joshua is then ducking Ortiz, how dare Joshua fight his mandatory vs Pulev/Takam when Ortiz is also a mandatory despite the IBF mandatory taking precedence as it was the first title Joshua won and so the mandatory was the first to be taken care of. Ortiz signs to fight Wilder but somehow Joshua is the one ducking the fight and not Ortiz who also pulled out of the fight before that would of secured him a title shot when he had an eliminator vs Ustinov.

    Joshua then accused of ducking the Parker fight. Negotiations begin, things get drawn out, critics blame Joshua for ducking, fight gets signed, critics switch to Wilder. Joshua now ducking Wilder, blah, blah, blah.

    Hell I vaguely even remember seeing threads about Joshua ducking Martin of all people, though that may have been on another forum.
     
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  12. Brighton bomber

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    Your letting your dislike of Joshua bias your posts, did you read my whole post, I question Joshua's so called motives when he stated 5 mill more would make the fight in the US, so Joshua's loyalty towards British fans is definitely questionable as I clearly stated.
     
  13. CutThroatFade

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    No you didn’t, you clearly stated that Joshua’s approach to this negotiation is partly influenced by his “loyalty to his UK fans” which is total nonsense. His sole reason for wanting it in the UK is to improve his chances of winning.

    Your last sentence is laughable: “even Joshua will bend to the influence of more money”...

    “Even Joshua”, as if he’s some sort of Jesus Christ tier saint.

    Even referring to his “responsibility to the UK fans” is delusional. He doesn’t care about them. If he truly did, then he wouldn’t go DMing fellow black fighters proclaiming his race as “superior”.
     
  14. Brighton bomber

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    What are you going on about. You're taking what I said out of context because again your bias is colouring your view nothing you've said I disagree with as stated in my original post, your picking a fight with a point of view I agree with.

    I clearly stated in my 2nd paragraph part of the reason is because Joshua wants the advantage of being at home just as Wilder does.

    I clearly question Joshua's loyalty to UK fans as it can be bought for, like with any fighter again, making him seem like just any other fighter where greed is a motivator, where have I made Joshua sound like a saint when I have criticised his loyality to British fans and also stated he wants home town advantage.

    Honestly you're picking an argument with someone that agrees with your points, that's how biased you are being right now, lol. You can't see I'm agreeing with you because you are foaming at the mouth with dislike for Joshua.
     
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  15. Walter Sobchak

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    When the fight does happen I'm sure you'll backtrack on all this ducking malarky. Despite the only evidence of anyone ducking anyone is Wilder, who has ducked a credible threat to his 0 his entire career.