Hearn: Dillian offered 4 mil+

Deontay Wilder got 4 million DOLLARS plus upsides for the Fury fight and thats more than Fury got for it and ever since that fight all weve heard about is how brilliant it all went and how well it did and how it proves these guys are now running level with Joshua and they should get 50-50.

Dillian Whyte is being offered 4 million POUND plus upsides to fight Joshua and its a disgrace. This sport and what people think about this sport is all over the place at the minute. A thumbs up for Wilder getting what he got and all boo and hiss at Eddie Hearn and Joshua for offering Whyte more.

Lets not forget this could go over a million PPV's. Lets not forget this could do 100'000 tickets. That could be some upside, much more than Wilder or Fury got paid.

 

I sometimes think I’m missing something, I genuinely believe people just see what they want. If Hearn offered Whyte a million pounds I would call it as I see it as a very poor offer. 5 million is a great offer.

 

People are acting as if Whytes been offered 50p.

£5m (as estimated all over) plus the chance to win all of Joshuas belts , rule the division and also get one up on an old foe is a fantastic offer.

He'd be a fool not to take it.

So would Fury if it is 60/40 as Hearn claims.

 

I think you are missing something.

If you make more from a typical purse bid than the offer you are given ... then it's not a great offer and you wait for the purse bid.

If four million is fine, even at the low end of a typical purse bid (25%), that means Joshua is making 12 million (75%) for this title defense.

(Does that sound low to you, as far as what Joshua makes for title fights? I think Whyte knows Joshua makes more than that for his title fights.)

If a sanctioning body said the split should be 55-45, like the WBA did this week, and Whyte is only making four million (45%), then that means Joshua will only make a little over 5 million (55%). (And nobody believes Joshua would make a mandatory defense for that.)

That's why Hearn doesn't want the sanctioning bodies to get involved.

If the sanctioning body gets involved and it's a 75-25 purse bid split, and Joshua typically makes 20 million (and Hearn has to keep Joshua happy), then Whyte needs close to 7 million.

If the sanctioning body gets involved and orders a 55-45 split and Joshua typically makes 20 million, then Whyte needs like 17 million. (And Hearn would have a heart attack.)

If Joshua normally makes 30 million a fight (as some suggest) and the purse split is 25%, Whyte gets 10 million or if the split is 45%, Whyte gets like 26 million.

Every scenario means 4 million isn't a good offer when compared to waiting for a purse bid.

So it makes sense for Whyte to take it to purse bids. And that's why Hearn is threatening him.

 

He's headlined PPV's against carefully selected opponents who each brought something to the table and with the benefit of Matchroom and Sky's push behind him. His success has all been in the domestic market where AJ is already dominant, so he's not bringing new money into the equation.

I suspect Hearn would've reminded him of this and told him to go and find his value in the market place. Will he find anyone willing to pay him more? Will that fight include the chance to become unified heavyweight champion and thus kick his earnings up fourfold? Could he parlay his ranking position into a more lucrative gig elsewhere? The answer I suspect is no and at that point he has a choice to make.

 

Also, keep in mind, the SANCTIONING fees for these fights is 3% of each boxer's purse (for each recognized belt - WBA, IBF, WBO). I have no idea what the IBO fee is.

When you have one belt, like Wilder, and both the champ and the challenger are paying 3% of their purses in sanctioning fees, that isn't as big of a deal. Fighters can handle that.

For three belts, each boxer pays 9% of his purse.

If Whyte was making four million against Wilder, he pays 120,000 for the WBC sanctioning fee.

If Whyte was making four million against Joshua, Whyte pays 360,000 of his purse for WBA, IBF and WBO sanctioning fees.

So he's automatically earning less fighting for MORE belts, as opposed to one.

So, if you have to pay 9 percent of your purse in fees you may want to let the sanctioning body boost your purse by sending it to purse bids.

 

@Dubblechin you are living on some sort of fantasy island with what you’re coming out with. Whyte hasn’t been made mandatory yet and you’re basing your assumptions on Whyte getting this 45% split which just won’t happen. AJ does not earn 30 million a fight, he wouldn’t even get that against wilder or fury. We’re talking about Dillian Whyte here, he can attract PPV support but only against another good name with a good fight on offer.

You’re basing the 5 million being a bad offer based on stuff which is false/hasn’t happened.

 

Dillian Whyte can make more if it goes to purse bids. And purse bids can range anywhere from 25% for the challenger to 45%.

That's all people are commenting on.

4 million isn't as much as 25% or 45% of what Joshua will make for the fight.

 

The bottom line is, unless you believe dubblechin’s wild theories, Whyte isn’t getting more than a million to fight anyone else anytime soon.

 

Hearn said he was offered at least 4 million, Whyte has said he was offered 10 another interview and compared it to what wilder was offered and he has NO title ??? The truth is probably in the middle but Hearn isn't going to say what he's offered and its probably decent and wants to avoid other guys pricing themselves out ,and that's what has happened. Every bodies crying over other fighters offers. End of.

Stop the crying sign the contract, who wants it most ?

 

Wild theories?

It's such a wild theory Eddie Hearn threatened Whyte and told him to take the offer because Hearn said if Whyte was waiting for the mandatory spot Hearn would try to sabotage a mandatory position for Whyte by trying to get it for Usyk, instead.

So, clearly, Hearn doesn't think it's a wild theory. He's actively threatening a guy saying he'll try to block Whyte's move if he doesn't take the offer.

But it's not a great offer if a purse bid can get you more.

 

Whyte said he was offered 10 million ? I highly doubt that.

 

I've not seen this before but it's pretty obvious that if you try and box Hearn in and seek to exert leverage from the paucity of other opponents out there for AJ then his next move will be to develop other viable options. Whether that's enticing Wlad from retirement, fighting Miller in NYC or accelerating Usyk's shot, Hearn will seek to provide his man with options.

 

Or Hearn is warning Whyte to take a good offer because the mandatory spot might go to Usyk by that stage and doesn’t want to be waiting around like he has with the WBC. Good advice in my opinion, how long has he been waiting for the WBC shot and how long would he still be waiting if he continued to pursue it?

 

I dont know what the upsides are but if they were half decent they could double the basic 4 million. But i dont know. To be honest i was dissapointed when i saw that "double it" tweet from Hearn and i knew Whyte wouldnt go for it and it doesnt come across to the fans that well either. I was expecting something alot bigger. If the upsides make a big difference there is nothing wrong with that offer, if the upsides add a million or 2 it is a **** offer.

And if it is a **** offer i wouldnt blame Whyte for turning it down and hoping to become a mandatory later in the year and going to purse bids. Its up to him.