Hearn: Dillian offered 4 mil+

So say we’re at 5 million now which I think is a good offer, then we’re near enough there after just a couple of offers? What’s wrong with the figures being put out? Was Hearn gonna jump straight in with 7 million? Of course not.

 

There isn't an "industry standard" in boxing in the UK, there really isn't, your worth counts on many factors, you are trying to link boxing which involves very basic things like Personality, Popularity and other things like TV Platforms, PPV sales, Live Gate, Advertising, which is linked to an individual

Compared to say a...

IT specialist, if you are one and can do a certain job then there would obviously be a average wage. So you turning down a job has no similarity to Whyte refusing a career high payday.


But even basing Whytes offer on this imaginary UK industry standard, you tell me a British heavyweight who was a voluntary challenger who got paid more than £4 million for a voluntary title shot?

Just one, any will do, one single fighter.


If you are talking "pots of money" that's a totally different thing, that depends on who is generating that pot, who brings what, who brings titles, who brings numbers, who the TV platform and Advertisers are wanting..

Again, tell me how Whyte is worth more than what he has been offered? It would be Whytes highest purse, that's confirmed, so if Whyte hasn't generated that himself before how can you say HE IS WORTH MORE?

If Whyte was generating 7 million a fight and then was offered 5 million and a shot at all those titles I'd say maybe unfair or I might say.. maybe worth a hit financially to have a shot at all those titles and what comes after, that's a calculation and some consideration, pros and cons.

But to say to Whyte "here is your highest ever purse and you have a shot at AJ and all these titles"

And to have people say "it's a poor offer",


No, not having that, if Whyte does or has generated more than what he has been offered then the offer wouldn't be his highest ever purse would it?

 

Hahaha I know mate,

I actually like Whyte, I rate him but I'm not having this rubbish of "lowball offer", it can't be if it's a career high purse as a voluntary challenger.

You're right, if AJ signs to fight Fury tomorrow he will be ducking Wilder, if AJ signs to fight Wilder he will be ducking Fury, He fights Whyte then he will be ducking Wilder and Fury, if AJ goes and fights Miller he will be ducking Wilder, Fury, Whyte.. oh and Ortiz, Usyk.. its mad.

Whatever AJ does there is a problem but this only happens with superstars, with the really big fighter and it's nice to know the UK has the number 1 heavyweight.


It's crazy, talking of FW, he said a while back AJ Vs Usyk April 13th then AJ Vs Whyte April 13th.. it changes every month or so, he'll be right because he has named nearly every heavyweight LOL

 

Actually the industry standards for the UK boxing are very tangible...

We know based on venue how much can be generated.

We know based on previous AJ PPV's how much can be projected off Whytes added value and market exposure over Povetkin and Parker.

And thus we know roughly how much is yp for grabs by both parties of the deal. 30 Million. Now we can begin carving the landscape in sincere fashion based on what is available.

So you continue to miss the point by quoting hardline figures, and touting career high paydays... when it is completely irrelevant compared to what is actually up for grabs.

We know what Pov split and Parker Split was, Dillian should be around the same.

And that translates to a far higher figure than whats been publicly shared.

I don't need to justify Whyte's worth... 2018 already did that. He is a high profile in the UK boxing scene... with a wide demographic of punters from casuals to purists. And casuals can turn up in droves for an explosive fighter like Whyte.

Add AJ to the mix and we got sold out arena'a with the option to increase capacity and record breaking PPV's.

Yeah AJ is the bigger draw... but based on resume experience... Whyte has been involved in three PPV's and make record numbers... so he brings a lot of value to the table for the UK punters who will already know this and put their money down.


So don't act like Whyte ain't worth what Parker or Pov is... because he is. And AJ is still taking a sizeable chunk. I thought this would have been obvious for a promoter like Hearn... and thus his offers clearly have an agenda behind them.

Career high pay day is basically taking what you're given.

Percentage split according to all that is available.. is getting what your're worth.

 

Does anybody remember Whyte (well Hearn) offering WBC CHAMPION Wilder a career high payday for a shot at Wilders title?

If my memory serves it was around $7 million, roughly what Whyte has been offered as a VOLUNTARY CHALLENGER for AJ's titles.

Whyte lost his mind, I'm sure he said Wilder was a "crackhead" and couldn't understand why Wilder wouldn't accept HIS offer as a voluntary challenger because it was a career high payday.

I'll post the videos if you want?


Well now Whyte has also been offered a CAREER HIGH PAYDAY as a VOLUNTARY CHALLENGER and has turned it down but now it's completely understandable, acceptable and Hearn is the bad guy.


The hypocrisy is absolutely stunning.

 

Yep AJ is the victim.

Angelic Hearn and santas little helpers over at Matchroom are being so sincere in their business dealings. So much so that Whyte Wilder and Fury the top 3 behind AJ are.flocking to the offers received.

Whyte has been the only sensible one and you want make him out to be a nutter.

 

I estimate it will take two weeks for the mathematically and logically challenged posters here to comprehend that concept.

All I am hearing is Career High payday!!!!!! Your highest ever!!!! OMG.. take it you fool!

But wait... you mean... I'm still only getting 10 per cent of the revenue???

It is just as stupid as hearing 'The new Samsung Smart.phone is the most advanced ever"

Well obviously... you wont release a phone that is technologicaly inferior to the previous one!!!!

Typical BS. Meanwhile everyome here oversells their cars, phones amd services to the rest of the world and say take it or leave it.

 

You've compared apples and oranges. It would have been Wilders highest payday based on the market he fights in, and whats on offer... its not like there would have been 100 million in the pot for Dillian to take the rest.

Plus the exchange rate has an effect.because our money goes further there.

30 million in british tender on the table
.. and Whyte accepts 7 million? Errr no. Even if its career high payday. Its a hard fight and he would have to build up again if he loses.

Dillian is worth at least 30 or more percent... if Fury and Wilder is asking 50/50 and Parker got 32.5.


If you dont agree.. then don't.

I don't care anymore... last post on the purse.topic for me.

 

So instantly you prove Hearn correct, regardless of the fighter they speak to they instantly want more money than they are actually worth or can generate.. simply because it is AJ.

But why do they? Well, they know AJ generates the big money, it's an event, it's a big PPV in the UK.

And we don't know what would be generated, it's getting mixed receptions, just look in the British forum, look on twitter, people want Wilder or Fury but yeah I suppose we may have a rough idea but there are huge differences for Whyte than other fighters..

You named two fighters, Povetkin was mandatory and Parker was a world champion, Whyte is a VOLUNTARY DEFENCE. Huge difference, massive difference.

You seriously cant be saying Whyte as a voluntary challenger is worth the same as a WBO champion in a unification fight?

It was basically acknowledged Hearn and AJ had to basically pay for the WBO title, they had to overpay for the title.

They had zero choice but to fight Povetkin, they wanted home advantage and control over the TV platform so again they had to make sure, they were in a potentially difficult position with Povetkins wealthy backers.

So what does Whyte bring? What problems does Whyte cause? Nothing and none, Hearn has been promoting him, he isn't signed and he isn't mandatory, so therefore they don't have to over pay.

Whyte doesn't have any leverage yet he has been offered a career high payday and it I say relevant..

Go and listen and watch Whyte talk about offering Wilder a career high payday, just go and listen, it's on YouTube.

It mattered to Whyte then, it was a big issue to Whyte then, he was offering a Champion a career high payday and wasn't happy it wasn't accepted, he made the arguments.

When Whyte himself is offered a career high payday for a title shot he isn't happy, he don't want it.


People can't have it both ways.

 

This is not reality.

Whyte isn't a PPV fighter here ( U.S ) so why would he sign with Haymon when Wilder will be in no rush to fight Whyte and be able to avoid him even more ? The funny thing about this thread is the other head case telling me Hearn is avoiding Whyte but it's always been Wilder ? Lol


The truth is Whyte don't need Haymon , he is the number ONE guy in the WBC and will get a mandatory sooner or later .....

Yes we KNOW Wilder only fights them every 2 years , maybe 3 but by that time Wilder won't have a belt anyway so what's the point going to less paying Haymon ( paid Ortiz 500, 000) when he has better fights in the U.K where Haymon plays third fiddle ?

 

100 per cent agreed, and that's all I really wanted to say here.

Thank god for you man.

I'm out.

 

Talking of festivities i think thats the problem, Fury, Wilder and Whyte seem to think its ****ing Christmas again and Joshua is Santa. What ever their problems they are all getting offered more money they will earn facing anybody else, and in Fury and Wilders case that is including each other as their last fight proved. If they dont like it Hearns phone is on and emails are open.

When somebody has more belts than him and makes more money than him they can claim to be the A side and get the A side split. Until then it is Joshua just like it has been for so many big names in the sport.