Hearn hints Wilder v Breazeale next

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Hearn also said this exact same thing just days before Wilder vs. Ortiz was announced.
     
  2. SambaKing

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    Doesn't bring anything to the table? Are you serious? You have just ruined any credibility. This fight smashes UK PPV records. The only fight besides Fury that would. Joshua vs anyone else isn't doing close to 750k buys nevermind over 1.5 millions which this fight will.

    Laughable.
     
  3. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Can he swim? :tiburon:

    He sure can't count ! :juggle:
     
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  4. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    @SambaKing

    Could you explain how Wilder generates more buys than Klitschko?

    Klitschko generates more viewers in the US and Europe than Wilder.....

    So how does Wilder generate more money?
     
  5. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Oh no I better delete my account then!!!!

    I look forward to you bring forward some evidence to where these mooted PVP figures are coming from (beside out of you arse) and how many Wilder will be the reason for in the UK market..

    You really are the first person I've seen trying to say Wilders addition is going to boost AJ profit in the UK market.

    Problem for you is well AJ has already saturated that market so it doesn't have any more to give. Those casuals who buy AJ's pvps listen to the marketing hype Matchroom put out so they can make David Price seem like the next coming of Ali and the casuals will lap it up. Wilder will have no bearing on that...

    Now if you said the US market like anyone else you still need to provide some proof and now average joe who watches sport on TV every Sat night isn't proof a PVP would sell.

    If that was the case Wilder would have been on pvp long ago given how many like to spuke his views on TV..
     
  6. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. Wilder is better than Breazeale but the chubby American is a stylistic threat to Wilder imo.
     
  7. SambaKing

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    ill happily remind you when it does.
     
  8. SambaKing

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    Absolute madness the way you are insinuating that AJ could fight anyone (apart from Fury) and get close to what the PPV numbers for Wilder will be. You are remarkably wrong. Even Hearn, Adam Smith etc have acknowledged it would break the UK PPV records in several interviews.

    I've spoke to many of casual's on the street and my mates, (I'm 24, perfect age range for matchroom audience) and almost all of them never bought the Takam fight & not many bought the Parker fight. They will all buy the Wilder fight just like they did Klitschko.

    I refuse to believe that you don't acknowledge this. You cant be that stupid.

    Ok, answer me this. If your theory is correct, why did Takam & Parker not even do close to that of the Klitschko buys? Joshua needs Wilder to smash that 1.5million records and vice versa.
     
  9. OpinionOfACasual

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    Broadcasting......

    Wilder v Ortiz - Broadcast in 3 countries

    United States (Showtime) - 1.2 million (Peak)
    United Kingdom (Sky Sports) - Unknown
    Australia (Fox Sports) - Unknown



    Joshua v Klitschko - Broadcast in 45 countries

    United States (Showtime + HBO) - 1.6 million (Peak)
    United Kingdom (Sky Sports) - Over 1.2 million buys
    Germany (RTL) - 10.4 million
    Ukraine (Inter) - 4.4 million
    Poland (Polsat Sport) - 900,000


    + 40 other countries, from the size of Russia/Canada/Sub-Saharan Africa.....To Albania/Lithuania/Tajikistan



    Klitschko > Wilder without question.....
     
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  10. OpinionOfACasual

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    That's a simple one to answer.

    Klitschko is very well known to UK fans, as he has fought both Haye and Fury on PPV.


    Wilder is as unknown as Takam......and less well known than Parker, as he's the guy that 'beat Tyson's cousin'.


    Klitschko v Fury did 1.7 million views on US TV lol....

    Again, more than Wilder.
     
  11. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Oh so you talked to a few casuals off the street plus mates and this is what they told you.. Fair enough I didn't realise you had been doing research yourself...

    So you are comparing Wilder to Klitschko in popularity to the man on the street? The guy who fought huge fights against Haye and Fury not to mention being a champ for over a decade.

    You think Wilder crushing 39 cans = Klitschko? Your mates tell you that? That fight did 1.5 million buys..

    Now I would say really that Wilder = Parker in value in the UK but I can't see any figures on the internet for Parker AJ as yet.. Can't really see anything on Takam AJ either but you seem to know both so can you post up a link to see..

    Again other then talking to a couple of guys down the pub (who all funnily enough agreed exactly with you), I haven't seen anything that remotely be used as evidence to Wilder being a bigger draw in the UK than anyone else..
     
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  12. speedbaggage

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    What if hearn gave Wilder a 40% split of the gate profit (excluding expenses for renting the arena and setting it up and paying staff) and also let him keep all the US pay per view. Joshua keeps all the UK pay per view. Would that would seem fair?

    Maybe all the other expenses can be covered by non US and UK ppv.

    I feel like it would be a fair split in that each are paid for what they bring to the table.
     
  13. OpinionOfACasual

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    So you're saying that Wilder brings 40% of the fans in attendance?


    You do realise that if Wilder got all of the US PPV, Hearn wouldn't promote the fight to US media at all right?

    There would be zero press conferences in the States.
     
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  14. speedbaggage

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    No the 40% is just paid in good faith. I don't think wilder brings anyone to the arena.

    Yeah you are right Shelly finkel would need money to promote it over there, but that could come out of the non UK US ppv? I wonder what EU, Aus, NZ ppv figures would be. Maybe enough to cover that, maybe not.
     
  15. OpinionOfACasual

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    You said 'each fighter get's what they deserve'.....

    On that basis Joshua gets 99.9% of Arena Attendance....

    100% of UK, EU and NZ sales also go to Joshua.