Hearn: "If Fury gets tonked out by Wilder, the Joshua fight will never happen"

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  1. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You link a video from the 10th of July?

    The offer from Hearn was so 'bad', Garcia's team rang Hearn up just the other day.


    Even the most biased pro-American Youtube media 'ThaBoxingVoice' has been posting videos the past few days.
    Where it's revealed that Garia's team have got in touch with Hearn.

    And Lou Dibella has said that Wilder and Joshua 'Have their own things to do' before fighting each other.




    You're getting exposed again Steph.....Just stop.
     
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  2. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Weak pathetic trolling.

    I asked you to back up your statement by providing all the names signed to Duckroom to show all these great fighters Eddie is currently promoting and you respond with that garbage.

    I'm not really interested fighters he is wishing upon a star to sign

    I highly doubt Garcia will sign with Hearn and even if he were to, it wouldn't save DAZN garbage, simply for the fact that all the big names are with Al Haymon, Top Rank and Golden Boy.
     
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  3. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Im sure none of this really matters, none of these Boxers go away, if any of them loses they are still around, Breazeale got knocked out by Joshua, Brazeale is now mandatory for Wilders belt, Dillian Whyte got knocked out, hes now queued up as 2nd shot at a world title. Parkers been beat twice and is still getting mentioned.

    If Wilder knocks Fury out and Joshua loses to Povetkin there is still no reason why we cant have Joshua v Wilder in April 2019 at Wembley.
     
  4. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think AJ rematch vs Povetkin happens in April if he loses
     
  5. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Oh Yeah, good point. Next summer then.
     
  6. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You've just confirmed you have no idea what DAZN is.....

    Your promotional/management company is irrelevant.
     
  7. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    No one knows what DAZN is because it's a joke.

    Now stop ducking the question.

    It's really simple, even for a spastic like you

    Name all the global superstars Eddie Hearn has in his stable.

    I ask this question since you stated in this thread that he's arguably the greatest promoter.
     
  8. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Why would I duck a question that's so easy to answer?

    Anthony Joshua is a global superstar......

    He sells his fights to more countries than any other.


    Canelo and Pac are the closest to him.....But struggle to sell on multiple continents like Joshua.


    So Hearn has more 'global superstars' than any other promoter.
     
  9. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    My goodness I don't know where to begin with the folly you've just posted

    ''Canelo and Pac struggle to sell on multiple continents like Jenner? '' Are you serious??

    iI've got to stop wasting time talking with a moronic casual who knows absolutely nothing outside duckroom.

    Pac has the highest ppv sells of all time and you think he struggles to sell across multiple continents? Jenner could only dream of reaching the sells Canelo and Pac have done through their career. We're talking 4.4 million ppv buys

    Outside of England people barely know who Jenner is, simply due to the fact that he refuses to fight outside of the comfort of the uk. His name is only now picking up in the states due to him using Wilder's name to drum up interest for his fight with Povetkin.

    Furthermore you named one fighter that is a superstar on Eddie's books. That doesn't mean he is a great promoter, it means he's riding his whole company on a manufactured paper champion that is frightened of facing other prime fighters who are threats.

    K2 promotions have GGG on their books and no one would say they are the great promoters due to GGG blowing up after they were happy to let him waste his prime years fighting nobodies.
     
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  10. CutThroatFade

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    1) Who cares if Dibella is working with Hearn? He's worked with Matchroom plenty of times in the past.

    (2) Hearn is meeting Pac's advisors - ****ing wow mate.

    (3) Lmfao Hearn has been in protracted negotiations with Garcia for about three months now. That's hardly impressive from Hearn's side is it?

    (4) Hearn failed to strike a deal with TMT for Davis to box on DAZN - that's called a failure. A failure to strike a deal. Of course Hearn has changed BJS's life, he's promoting his fight. Frank Warren struck that deal with Hearn to have the fight on DAZN. So what? Hearn tried to encourage Saunders to leave Frank when his deal is up and join Matchroom and Saunders publicly declared his loyalty to OG Frank.

    You are so cringeworthy. You are hailing literal ATTEMPTS by Hearn to make deals. What a ****ing bum boy you are. Log off and start training, Tony, Usyk is going to batter the **** out of you.
     
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  11. OpinionOfACasual

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    You asked about Hearn's 'Global Superstars'.....

    Joshua is a 'Global Superstar', he has arranged TV deals with Networks on multiple continents.

    Maybe you could explain why Joshua had both a UK and US broadcast deal.....Whilst Canelo/Pacquiao do not?


    Canel did 2.2 million with Mayweather.....
    Pacquiao did 4.4 million with Mayweather.....
    Mcgregor did around 6.5 million!

    When Pacquiao recently had to carry Jeff Horn, Pacquiao only earnt around $10 million.....
    When Canelo recently had to carry Smith, Canelo couldn't generate 300k buys.....


    Joshua earnt near 3 times that amount against Parker, Klitscko, and will do again against Povetkin.

    Joshua is the largest active 'Global Superstar' in the sport.

    He can generate $20,000,000+ carrying a PPV against a non-global name like Parker.
    Canelo/Pac couldn't do that with Smith/Horn.
     
  12. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Again one global superstar on his ranks. You can't name anyone else who's done anything note worthy under Hearn

    That's not enough to be classified as the greatest promoter. That's just you licking Eddie's balls like a dumb slut. He's got a long way to go to become classified as a great promoter. Already he's complaining how stressful his schedule is and how he doesn't know how people like Bob Arum and Frank Warren are still doing the job in their 70's and 80's. Remember his old man packed it in when people got tired of his recycled events as he retreated into into snooker . When Eddie starts turning other fights in his stable into superstars then he can start strutting around as if he's done something

    What he's done with AJ is very good I give him that, but it's not not too difficult o promote a gold medalist 6'6 bodybuilder with has huge sponsors behind him.

    Amir Khan was just as big when he first burst on to the scene before he getting his chin smashed in. The brits are tribal minded and its easier to sell them anything because the majority of them haven't a clue about boxing they just want to get behind a hero to worship. Let's not forget these are the same people who turn up in big numbers to follow and support the liks of Quigg, Crolla and Dave Allen.

    As for your fixation in regards to ppv buys , The parker AJ fight was a unification between two unbeaten paper champions, so understandably it's going to do very good numbers.

    Canelo vs GGG generated over 1.3 ppv buys and both can barely speak English.

    Canelo vs Chavez generated over 1 million buys

    Manny Pacquiao vs Marquez generated over 1.15 million ppv buys.

    So again you show you don't know very much outside of AJ and Edde Hearn

    Cherry picking your points and ignoring other fights to suit your argument isn't going to wash. I know you're a paid partisan Duckroom goon but that doesn't mean you have to be a complete and utter dishonest moron
     
  13. OpinionOfACasual

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    So Joshua a 'paper champion', sold more PPV than two P4P Top 10's fighting each other?

    You're arguing against yourself now.


    You've just claimed that it's all down to casual 'Tribal' UK fans.....

    Canelo/Pacman fans know exactly who GGG/Chavez/Marquez are - And they still sold less!


    I simply stated that right now, Eddie Hearn is the best promoter in the world.

    Even DAZN, an outsider in the sport, chose Hearn to represent them as they believe he's the best promoter in the world.



    Joshua v Takam
    Canelo v Smith
    Pac v Horn


    All fights where the 'A side' has to carry the opposition.
    Joshua made $13,000,000 against a 12 day replacement opponent - Considerably more than Pac or Canelo made.

    Interestingly Joshua had more viewers in the US, than Canelo had PPV buys worldwide.


    Right now, Joshua carries a PPV better than any other fighter.
     
  14. Okin129

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    DAZN only wanted Hearn to represent them because he has AJ who could fight against Audley Harrison 3 times a year and would do great numbers everytime.

    Without Joshua, there is not much left.
     
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  15. OpinionOfACasual

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    A completely new broadcaster, which is yet to even start, has already announced numbers World title fights between now and 2019.

    They've been contacted by the teams of both Pacquiao and Garcia to see what DAZN can offer them.



    To be hating on DAZN, you must simply dislike Eddie Hearn.

    Raising the activity levels of fighters.....
    With no PPV model.....

    It's the most fan friendly model out there - Fans should want it to work.