Hearn: I've been contacted by Wilder and Parker's camp about a Bellew fight

Yes, he's got heart for sure.

Bellew was gassing though, quite badly considering how little Haye was forcing him to move. So he's got stamina issues too it seems.

 

bellew should get adonis to come up to heavyweight. this is the division where he carries powah

 

At CW I think Bellew would have been fine, but I thought he gassed quite badly at a few points after the injury.

For example, there was one point where Bellew was trying to regain his breath while Haye was waiting on the ropes for support, and nothing happened for a while because neither was up to engaging.

There might have even been a case to give Haye one round after the injury due to Bellew being too spent to do anything.

On Sky they were talking quite a bit about Bellew being gassed due to the extra weight.

But maybe I have to rewatch it if you didn't notice Bellew gassing much?

 

I personally think people read too much into the "Parker didn't seriously hurt...." thing. That doesn't mean his power isn't legit, it just means he hasn't stopped guys who don't tend to get stopped. You shouldn't need a 100% KO rate to qualify as a big puncher, Takam has only been dropped once - by a big puncher (Povetkin) who was on PEDs and managed to land a particularly clean and well timed punch late in the fight.

He clearly has enough power to be a legit danger, people are too used to the likes of Wilder who cherry picks pillowfisted guys who ideally have glass jaws meaning he can get away with full windmill power and not be stopped in the process, and Joshua who could prove to be one of the biggest punchers in boxing for YEARS.

 

Good discussion between you three. Agree with the major points on Wilder vis a vis Parker. Wish the forums had more of this kind of intelligent back and forth instead of "you moron, so and so is the worst ever and so and so is the best"

 

I agree that Wlad, Ortiz, Wilder have more power than Parker.

But I do think Parker could potentially stop those two (I wouldn't guarantee it of course). It might not be a roided Povetkin massive KO, but there's also the type of stoppage where one fighter gets a bit stunned, is clearly losing, and is just taking too much damage. I could def. see Washington getting stopped like that, it's within the realms of possibility for me.

Agreed on your second paragraph, it's above average but not up there with the biggest punchers. I guess I just think that funny things happen in boxing more often than we think they do, sometimes even a true feather-fist manages to stop someone quite durable to general amazement.

 

I'm pretty confident the Briedis/Huck winner beats him to be honest, Briedis has huge power, he clean KO'ed Charr at HW who is supposedly iron-chinned.

But who knows, Bellew keeps defying my predictions lol!

Also, curious how well the CWs have been doing at HW lately, Huck/Povetkin, Mchunu/Chambers, Briedis/Charr, Bellew/Haye etc. all had the CW exceeding expectations.

 

I essentially agree about relative power, though you are listing the elite power punchers in the division. I don't get how people seem to treat anything "not elite" as barely passable - if someone can't beat a top 20 guy then they're a bum, or if they do but not by KO then they aren't overly hard a puncher.

I'd say he's just outside of the top 5 punchers in heavyweight right now, but definitely in the top 10. IMHO that is more than sufficient and well beyond "above average" - especially when there are some BIG hard punching guys right now.