Hearn: I've been contacted by Wilder and Parker's camp about a Bellew fight

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  1. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxrec HW rankings are pathetic lol, I only use them for their records of fights.

    Your right if someone gets caught flush they probably will go but we saw Molina hit wilder flush he didn't get koed, we saw Whyte hit AJ flush he didn't get koed so in theory it's less likely we get KOs once the level of opposition goes up unless you are a really big puncher like AJ and Wilder.
     
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  2. carlingeight

    carlingeight Active Member Full Member

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    We're down the rabbit hole now folks. I don't care who Bellew fights as long as we're pulled back in the real boxing world. Y'know with stuff like rankings and mandatories. It's not perfect, but it's a damn sight better than the WWE route.

    Haye wasn't even ranked by the WBC looking at their February ratings. Bellew shouldn't be in a position to challenge the champion.
     
  3. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes lol, those are really pathetic rankings! Can't even see how a computer can come up with such pathetic stuff.

    Agree that KOs certainly less likely as the level of opposition goes up, I'm just saying that they are still possible.
     
  4. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ahh that explains Washingtons poor boxing. Well as Wilder said, Washington was just a tune up fight. We all predicted him to get knocked out and we were correct.
     
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  5. Madmink

    Madmink Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No one in their right minds thinks bellew is king,and all brits arent making him out to be great.but if your looking at someone to take aim at,look no further than deontay fckin wilder.
    Why the fck is bellew on his radar.well we all know why but he needs to fck right off and fight a worthy challenger
     
  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I definitely would never argue that Kos cannt happen. I think AJ vs Wilder would result in a ko. If AJ beats Wlad he will probably stop him. I think Wilder stops Parker, i think Parker could stop Pulev.

    It all depends on the style of the fighter and the power they have.
     
  7. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought he was doing well against Wilder but yeah he's really just a jab jab hold guy.

    I don't hate Parker or anything he's definitely top 5, he has some holes but he does have some upsides and he is young so he might surprise me down the line if he keeps improving. I do think he will have to leave Barry at some point if he doesn't show more defensive improvements.
     
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  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    To talk to Hearns lying ass about that ****.
     
  9. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd like him to leave Barry too, time for some new input IMHO.
     
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  10. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For the sake of avoiding subjectivity, I'll look at the Boxrec top 10 heavies as a "common ground". Firstly, ANYONE can be knocked out with the right timed punch if someone has a certain level of power... Parker has sufficient power to get anyone if the planets align correctly HOWEVER I'm not saying that means he would knock anyone out, obviously. This kind of thing is why you can never say what is going to happen - and why boxing is so fun to watch :)

    I suspect Deontay Wilder (who has been unhappy about hits by lesser and far less hard hitting guys) and Christian Hammer are a couple of guys from the boxrec top 10 who Parker has a reasonable chance of hurting. I'd say he's more likely to hurt Hammer than he was Takam or Ruiz, I'd have said the same BEFORE he fought those guys - I didn't expect either of those to end by Parker KO.

    Sorry, I wasn't suggesting you did - it's just an attitude that is quite prevalent.

    I actually think thing the opposite in terms of Wilder, I think Parker could upset Wilder (though Wilder's windmill is always a factor which can change anything) and I suspect Team Parker think the same. AJ and Wlad I agree more, as with Tyson Fury.
     
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  11. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's unfair to use boxrec's top 10 because let's face Teper, Martin and Hammer are not even top 15 guys when you really look at it.
    Parker has a chance of hurting Wilder but like you said most average punching fighters can hurt someone in their division. Can he finish Wilder I really doubt it.

    I guess we will see a lot of JP fans are predicting he will stop Fury if they fight, I personally think he won't be able to even drop Fury and it will go to a decision probably a SD win for JP or Fury.

    Do you think he will drop or stop Hughie?
     
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  12. Roger_Ramjet

    Roger_Ramjet Member banned Full Member

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    Right, so what does it tell you that a shot, old Haye who has barely fought a live body in 5 years was winning pretty easily?
     
  13. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    An old shot Haye would beat a lot of the HW if his Achilles didn't explode. Hammer and Teper are two names ranked high that I think even Bellew could beat.
     
  14. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We honestly can't easily know, Wilder certainly hasn't fought anyone as dangerous as Parker in terms of KO risk - IMHO. I wouldn't call Parker the easy favourite, but I suspect he has the potential to finish Wilder. I view Takam and Ruiz as a lot tougher nuts to crack than Wilder, both with much better chins AND defense and both of them had points they looked a bit vulnerable - Takam was definitely spinning a bit once or twice in their fight but is a tough mofo.

    I think the worst of Kiwi casual fandom and ditto for the UK are coming out of the woodwork and making both sides look like numpties in terms of this. There are a LOT of people here who think Parker is going to beat the crap out of Fury, and similarly a lot of poms think Parker is no risk for Fury and he's going to box his ears off. I basically don't take either crowd seriously.

    I honestly am not 100% of what to expect in that fight. Haven't seen too much to suggest Fury can be knocked out, but also haven't seen much to suggest he can hurt Parker - so it'd be easy to assume that it's more likely to go to scorecards. Imho if he goes in to fight Parker using the template set by Takam and Ruiz, Hughie is going to get KO'd. I am certain Parker won't fight him the way he fought those guys, I think he'll be no way near as negative against a guy like Fury and Fury won't have experienced anything like that which will be an interesting test of his fortitude.

    I guess if I split up the likely ways I feel the way the fight could end (as in, give an idea of how I feel their styles etc could mesh) I end up with something like this:

    Hughie by decision: 38%
    Parker by KO: 30%
    Parker by decision: 20%
    Hughie by KO: 12%
     
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  15. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    ****en ******ed lmao...