Hearn/Joshua and Finkel/Wilder comically overplayed their hands

Hearn/AJ did just fine without Wilder. Wilder turned down $100m on the day so of Al Haymon not wanting to lose his fighter to another platform that was giving him sleepless nights.

in years to come Wilder will sue Haymon and maybe even Finkel for the advice they gave. AJ fought the much bigger challenge in Usyk twice

 

The point on marination is spot on.

It’s hilarious that you have to be spend a significant proportion of the post hating on AJ though. Can you never admit you were wrong?

AJ’s career and legacy is far greater than Wilder’s - I don’t think there’s much debating this anymore. You can bang on about the Ruiz fight all you want - truth is a guy Joshua beat convincingly just beat Wilder 12-0. You can use ring rust and age as an excuse, the truth is Wilder is overrated and not nearly as good as you thought. Nothing wrong with being off on fighters.

 

One of the first times I'll agree with you Redbeard. No reason why the fight couldn't of happened last night it was mooted for December all year long and then they pulled a bait and switch and we got Wilder/Parker and Joshua/Wallin instead which lets be honest isn't why we were looking forward to the proposed December card in Saudi Arabia. I guess that's why they had to come up with that expensive promo.

They definitely overplayed their hands and all involved are to blame. Joshua/Wilder for all the titles would have definitively been the biggest fight of this era without a doubt which is why DAZN were offering outrageous money for Wilder to face Breazeale and then Joshua, but Wilder ducked the fight, perhaps to marinate it as that seems to be a Haymon method of business and then Hearn the idiot when he finally has Wilder amenable to a Joshua fight does the same damn thing and thinks he can squeeze and extra fight between and milk the boxing fans of another PPV payday.

They should have learned from the Fury/Ngannou fight where that too almost ended up backfiring when instead of giving us Fury/Usyk in December as proposed for most of the year then pushed it back and gave us Fury almost losing to a novice boxer.

Fury/Usyk needs to happen next, no more tune ups or that payday will also be going down the drain.

 

Wilder thinking them belt carrying purse
Are there to be collected
You've just been on and under card
Promoted by fwank
Played to the uk time
America is where it's at though
Wilder is now an uncard fighter which his ego wont allow
Put him in with big baby
He wont take them fights
Wilder as been found out
50 fights in
Americwar good at rolling turns in glitter then over valuing it

 

It's incredible people defend AJ and Hearn still. True mugs, as the 'brits' say.

There are even people gushing over AJ's win against Wallin, or surprised that it wasn't competitive. How stupid are you people? Did you actually think they picked Wallin because he was a dangerous fight? He's one of the lightest punching SHW's out there. They picked him because they were avoiding Fury and Wilder and wanted a relatively safe 'name' fighter to justify the big event. Obviously people were cheering for an upset, but that doesn't mean he was a truly dangerous opponent.

Fury handled him easily as far as winning the rounds went, and was blinded with an incredible cut that was simply a lucky punch.

So now AJ gets another title shot probably, off the back of what? Losing to Usyk twice then fighting 'tune-ups' and Wallin, who's beaten nobody. All the fans will be out celebrating their three-time champion!

It's also clearly lost on people that Wilder is 38 years old. Can you count past ten? Or are you stuck at single digits like Wilder and AJ? Because in no sport is 38 not 'past it'. I don't care about Wilder, in fact I despise him and I enjoy the fact he lost. But don't pretend he's in his early 30s still and this Wilder was the one Fury beat and AJ ducked for years. Wilder relies on speed and explosiveness and that declines rapidly in middle-age.

Also, if clowns actually believe anybody offered anyone 100 million dollars for a fight and it was turned down, wtf planet are you living on. Finkel would literally do everything in his power to make Wilder take that offer if it was real.

 

Pls Shut up...
Wilder admit himself that he dont take this massive offer... This was official offer from DAZN...
Even Finkiel admit it.

This Joshua and Hearn haters are just stupid af...

You even try change history, disregard facts and even words from boxers just to still have platform for hate...

Just Shut up. Go read and learn how to admit that You were wrong...

 

Fight marination is the worst thing to happen to boxing.

The fights take place after the primes, lots of soft touches in between and all against the fans wishes.

It's like a broken record now but we all know where this happens and where it doesn't.

 

So you single out AJ fans while failing to acknowledge Fury fans have been claiming Wallin will beat AJ for months. Now AJ smokes him, in far easier fashion than Fury beat him, Wallin is rubbish. It’s typical, and just shows people will discredit anyone when they can no longer strengthen their agenda.

I don’t blame Joshua and Hearn entirely, both teams are at fault.

You highlight Wilder’s age but heavyweights fight in much longer than other guys (look at Wlad and Foreman). Also by your own logic Fury’s and Wilder’s biggest wins were against guys who were totally past it then.

Truth is Wilder lost due to multiple factors including his age, inactivity, damage taken from the Fury fights, being completely out smarted, not having any footwork, and just generally being overrated. He’s not had one win against a legit top ten guy who was in their prime. The problems Parker gave him last night would still have been problems in his prime.

You can critique AJ all you want, truth is he’s beaten far more top contenders than Wilder. He may have been overrated, was steered clear of Wilder in 2018 (I agree with you here), but at least he wasn’t fed absolute c/d level journeyman his whole career.

 

If boxing history proves anything , it is NEVER a good idea to announce a fight while fighters have fights to get through first. It actually motivates the opponents to be the spoiler.

 

He got more for Usyk 2 than he would have for the original Wilder fights in 2018. He never ducked.

it wasn’t til the PBC money dried up and Saudi had the funds to appease wilder that he turned up to the negotiating table.

 

I mean from a fan perspective its far from comical because its another great fight we've missed out on. Shame that we are the ones that lose out due to boxers and promoters greed.

 

This particular fight was not marination. It was a case of one platform putting up funds and the other not wanting their guy on said platform.

PBC managed to get Wilder to take fights on their platform. The same thing they did with Spence, Gervonta etc. fighters will eventually learn activity and not listening to the PBC nonsense is the best option

 

Joshua v Wilder wasn't for the titles last night, that fight is largely insignificant outside of bragging rights and shuts up all the ducking talk. We would have preferred that fight obviously.

Joshua makes till in any fight. Hearn possibly lost out not Joshua tho. Wilder moves out of the title elminator and insert whoever next.