HEARN KO'S WBC DIBELLA AND WILDER IN 1!

It's on this damn website for crying out loud you don't even have to google it. Yes it's from Hearns point of view which I clearly stated. So try again to stick your head in the sand and ignore actual articles that are right in front of you, just because it doesn't suit your chosen opinion.

Now nobody takes that supposed 50/50 split seriously not Hearn and not even Wilder as I have alluded to before. Hearn saying he doesn't know what Wilder really wants, is probably true as apparently according to Hearn Shelley Finkel never actually contacted him which is why he doesn't know what Wilder wants. Maybe Wilder's team better stop the bull**** and pick up the phone and call Hearn and actually make an offer. But maybe they're just doing what they did with Parker. He called out Parker after Joshua beat Wlad, Duco reached out to them and Wilder's people went MIA.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/10/hearn-says-wilder-will-never-get-50-50-split-joshua-fight/

“The deal in Wilder’s head is a 50-50 split but over my dead body is that ever happening,” Hearn said to the sun.co.uk. “He hasn’t had a serious fight yet and he needs to fight someone real before he can start making demands. I want him to fight Dillian Whyte on February 3 at The O2. That would be an absolute tear-up. AJ would buy a ringside seat for that.”

 

Wilder isn't next which is likely why no offer has been made. They want Parker next and have begun negotiations. The only offer they have made is to fight Whyte.

Fact is neither of them are on the same page at the moment. Wilder and his team are aiming towards AJ as that's the only option for a payday for them, Whle Joshua is looking to face Parker and putting Wilder on the back burner hoping the fight builds to it's full potential.

 

I'd be willing to believe that if there was a source to prove that Wilder wanted a 50-50 split. Even Hearn did not say that Wilder wanted a 50-50 split. He created those quotes himself.
He assumed that Wilder would request that split for two reasons ;
1)To convince the public that the fight can't be made
2)To create more demand for Wilder vs Whyte.

Yes , nobody takes the 50-50 split seriously , not even Wilder , so where's Hearns counter offer?? Whats Hearns counter offer?
His counter offer was Whtye with no guarantee that it would lead to the Joshua fight.

Why not? The Wlad fight was signed and sealed before Joshua fought Molina. Why can't Hearn dangle the Joshua fight in front of Wilder if he beat Whyte. Im sure that would make the negotiation process a lot easier on both sides.

Wilder called out Parker when Fury cancelled their fight in NZ but Parker went and fought some Cajanou fella instead. Wilder calling out Parker to no response is all over the internet.

 

When you`re sitting in the driving seat there is no need to rush and you have plenty of options. Wilder and his team are practically on bended knee begging for a payday, how humiliating for them. If Wilder doesn`t get a mega payday with AJ he faces the prospect of continuing fighting bums for peanuts.

 

I haven’t read the whole thread yet so forgive me if someone has already pointed this out.

That does not sound like Eddie Hearn, it sounds like Frank Maloney (or whatever he/she’s called now). The reference and defence of Lewis and Bowe also leads me to believe it’s Maloney and not Hearn.

Maybe I’m wrong and it’s just poor audio but I’m suspicious of that interview

 

I am just speculating but just as Wilder sees Joshua as his golden goose, I think Hearn sees Wilder as Joshua's golden goose and his one chance to break America. Currently Joshua/Wilder isn't going to make much impact in the US, 90% of the interest and money is coming from the UK. Hearn wants to build the fight. He wants Wilder to beat someone decent who isn't too much of a threat like Whyte, which also favours Hearn should Wilder somehow lose, and for Joshua to pick up the WBO belt so when he does face Wilder it's for the Undisputed title.

For Joshua/Wilder to be the fight Hearn wants to make AJ a star in the US, he'll need all the belts on the line and Wilder to raise his profile as much as is possible. Maybe then it's feasible in the US with HBO or Showtime backing it.

But Hearn won't give Wilder a guaranteed shot at AJ until he knows it will capture US interest. At least that's what I think. Wilder may beat Whyte and Showtime and HBO turn to him and say so what and deny him any chance of PPV in the US. Hearn won't rush what he sees as AJ's one chance for US stardom, it's been pretty clear that's his long term plan. He beat a US fighter in Martin for his first title, defended against US fighters even when they were seen as garbage, all to attract US interest. Joshua went on the James Corden show, he's even considered giving Miller a shot all to build AJ's US profile.

 

Wilder beating Whyte or any other bum isn't going to make Wilder any bigger than he already is. Americans don't know or care about Whyte and they'll care even less if Wilder fights him on UK time.

The fight is ready to go right now. Every American fight fan is clamoring for it right now. There is no excuse why Wilder shouldn't be either Joshua's next fight or fight after that.

In reality Parker needs to build his profile more than Wilder. Why isn't Hearn insisting Parker defeat Whyte before he fights Joshua?

Arguing a unification between two champs with multiple defenses under their belt need to marinate is a load of nonsense.
Marinating fights means postponing fights which could end up taking years. You never know what can happen over the course of 12 months in this sport.
Give me an example of when the marination process ever turned out to be a good thing?

Everyone agrees it was a disaster when it came to May vs Pac. . Lewis Tyson stalled for so long that Lewis ended up fighting a Tyson impersonator who only turned up to collect a cheque.
The big fights need to happen now .. not tomorrow .. not next year. ..not two years from now

 

Joshua's TV ratings are going down in the U.S. The Parker fight certainly won't raise his standing in the U.S. where the fight will be televised.

Wilder draws DOUBLE what Joshua does in the U.S. FOUR TIMES what Joshua draws when Wilder is on network television.

Hearn isn't going to make Joshua a star in the U.S. fighting guys who couldn't carry Wilder's jock.

 

Wilder draws far more viewers in the U.S. than Joshua does. If Wilder decides to tell Hearn and Joshua to screw off, in the long run, it'll be better for Wilder to dominate in the U.S. than for Joshua to dominate in the UK.

Again, when Joshua is left with having to meet three mandatories a year, and he's forced to fight guys like Charr and Oquendo, the stadiums won't be full anymore. And the viewership in the UK isn't what it is in the U.S.

And he'll realize he was never in the driver's seat to begin with. He got in the back seat when he failed to fight Wilder ... and failed to start a monster series of fights that could've made both global stars.

But have fun watching Joseph Parker go down with a whimper. He certainly can't outpunch Joshua. And he can't outbox. So I'm sure that'll be another tedious affair.

 

You are so delusional. AJ does not need Wilder for anything other than his belt. AJ will always be the A side in any fight he has until he retires. Parker beats Wilder.

 

Please explain to me why Joshua and Hearn should just bend over and just give Wilder what he wants?

I want to see Joshua Vs Wilder just to end these ridiculous arguments because they are getting boring already but the facts are Wilder isn't a draw, hasn't got the backing to bring serious money to the table and his resume after 39 fights is actually embarrassing.

I've listened to US boxing fans for years and years bang on about A Side and B Side and I hated it, still do, it really irritated me, still does but I have to accept it to a certain extent because boxing is a business and when you have a star there are certain things that almost have to happen to get fights made.

For example, I've listen to some of the same people on here who said a while ago saying that Golovkin is the B Side and should just accept whatever Canelo offers him are now flipping it completely and suggesting if Joshua doesn't accept the B Sides requests its a duck.

You can't have it both ways, it's Wilder that needs to lower his expectations dramatically and accept he is the B Side to get this fight made, it really is that simple.

When that happens the fight will be made, Wilder and his Team are the ones that has to move their position not Joshua or Hearn.

 

When Joshua beat Klitschko in front of 90,000 in Wembley Stadium

Wilder was just coming of beating Washington in front of less than a quarter of that, in the Legacy Arena that has a max capacity of 17,500.


You are talking utter cobblers.

If Wilder was doing huge numbers and a big draw explain to me why he was paid 1-2 million for Stiverne?

Explain that please..


It is a fact Joshua's opponents now get paid more than Wilder does for defending his WBC title, let that sink in, go and check out a few of Wilde purses and come back and tell me again Wilder is a draw and does great numbers anywhere.

 

Again, wake me up when Joshua draws more viewers in the U.S. than Wilder.

When the stadium fights dry up, Joshua and Hearn are going to come crawling to the guy who draws quadruple the viewers they do on U.S. TV.

Nobody in the WBC ratings is beating Wilder. He isn't going anywhere. And all those WBO, WBA and IBF mandatories are REALLY going to start to suck to British fans forced to buy PPVs.

Hearn and Joshua blew it when they passed over Wilder. They could've fought a series of fights while they were both still at their peaks.

Now, it'll probably never happen.

But enjoy your Joseph Parker fight, because there are going to be a lot of bad PPV mandatories coming Joshua's way when he has three belts to defend.

 

Hearn made his bed when he ducked Wilder.

Now you UK fans are going to have to pay for it in crappy mando PPVs. Two or three every year.

And Wilder will be the WBC champ, so he'll never be one of those mandos.

 

People underestimate Joshua's knowledge of the sport. He's said that he'd like to be an ATG, because of how much he has admired past ATGs and theyre the reason he is in the sport. But he's also said he expects to take losses in his career.....Like all ATG heavyweights, who took losses to inferior opponents during their career.

Wilder has far more to lose in this fight.

With no World Heavyweight Title, Wilder's career is irrelevant.

Even if Wilder beats AJ, AJ is still the bigger draw.