Hearn lies and embarrasses himself again and again...

Pfft ha ha ha.
Hearn's a snake! I hate him waah waaah
Only reason Andrade is fighting for the title is cos *insert absolute tosh*

 

I wasn't comparing anything.
I was stating that strong ratings on regular HBO dont translate into strong ratings on PPV. (same on SHO)
And SHO having a smaller subscription base doesn´t mean they can´t do strong numbers on PPV or regular SHO.
When the GBP stable migrated over to SHO back in 2013, there was only a small drop in ratings.

I think it's actually BS to compare HBO´s 53mn base to SHO's 28. SHO clearly has/had the stronger boxing base. (talking % wise). Just because a channel has access to a certain number of households, doesn't mean it will deliver ratings. The audience is divided. HBO quit boxing because it was a niche audience for them.(of course they themselves ****ed it up, and made it so)

I brought up GGG because he came to my mind first. He does big numbers on regular HBO, yet it was proven that it won't translate over to PPV. You need the right dance partner.
Lemieux and Jacobs were good fights, but the fans didn't buy them. It's a rough market.
Nationality plays a minor part in the PPV model.

And i am not among those who say this fight will be a box office failure. But they clearly have a ceiling. These are two guys making their U.S. PPV debuts. When was the last time anyone making their PPV debut delivered over 300k?
When was the last time anyone besides Floyd, Alvarez, Cotto or Manny delivered over 300k on PPV?

Yup, true. Great undercard gets the fans talking about the main event as well.

True.

And you just read my comment and made up your mind that i am some Matchroom fanboy, and have declared that this fight will be a flop.

Well you are wrong. I have said from the beginning that this fight will be a success, but it will do slightly over 400k.
400k is a huge success. Anything over that will be just amazing.
It´s clearly not this mega event. But it is big enough to sell actual PPVs. Everyone will get paid handsomely.

 

Yeah this is how I see it, although I'm not quite as optimistic as you are. Two fighters making a ppv debut have never done 400k. Now, there are good arguments that these two are especially marketable and being well marketed. But we have no basis of favorable comparison. From a sheerly rational perspective, it's going on a bit of a limb to say they will do over 400k. But I really hope they do. I will be buying it, and am inviting non boxing fan friends over to try to get them interested in the future.

 

When was the last time two undefeated HW champs with big fan bases fought in America with this level of hype in the PPV era? Never you say? Exactly.

The biggest most exciting HW fight between two superstars still hasn't sold out.

Just saying

How could that be when we have two icons. Two heavyweight monsters with the public eager to see these two gladiators fight.

 

Saunders vacated before he was stripped, he didn't have to vacate and wouldn't have unless he was 99% sure he would be stripped.

Andrade IS fighting for the vacant WBO title on the 20th.

So both things YOU claimed Hearn lied about errrr have happened or about to happen.


As for Fury, you obviously haven't thought that through, Hearn could sell snow to eskimos, Furys comeback fight would have been on PPV with a decent card and he could have afford to do that deal as long it was a long term agreement and a long term plan.

The fights Hearn wanted for Fury after that "Nobody" as you called him (rather insulting considering Fury fought Seferi and Pianeta) were..

Bellew
Whyte
Joshua

Hearn and Fury would have made a fortune but Fury didn't fancy that, he didn't want to be beaten up by a British fighter so he went and sold his "0" to Wilder.

Anyway, the only people being "raped" are BJS who just just got caught doping, lost out on the biggest payday of his career and just lost his title.

And Fury if he turns up in December to get his head removed from his shoulders and then after that Fury goes in to a meltdown, gets fat, becomes irrelevant again (in the boxing world) and slowly retires after weekly threats of a "comeback" on twitter get boring.


Anyway you need to apologise to Hearn, you were wrong, he was right.

 

Well Andrade is fighting for the world title so he was correct in that but pe4haps not quite how he expected since Saunders gave up then felt instead of being stripped.

 

Yeah OK I get it, you don't like Hearn. So let me get this straight.. because BJS vacated before he was stripped, Hearn LIED?

Just like Hearn LIED when he said he would beat FW in a purse bid and BJS's next defence would be in the USA and then FW/BJS accepted a deal before they were embarrassed in a purse bid?

That sort of LIE?

Regardless how they got there, Hearn was right, BJS isn't a champion any longer and Andrade is fighting for the vacate title just like he said.

You saying "it only happened because BJS vacated.." is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here, it's STILL HAPPENING.


The only person covered in "gypsy loads" is you, you also must be choking on them.. Fury isn't "charismatic", shouting "dosser" isn't charismatic, it's embarrassing.

Fury isn't "exiting", if you believe Fury fights are exciting it must be because you have gypsy loads in your eyes.

As for talent, no, not really, he is just tall and moves around a bit and you'll see how talented he is in December when Wilder with his poor technique punches Fury in to semi retirement.

Anyway go and shower and get those loads out of your eyes, nice try though.

 

BJS was denied a licence, then instead of waiting for hearings, appeals he vacated his title.

On what planet does BJS vacate his world title unless he was sure he was going to be stripped?

And Is Andrade fighting Kautondokwa for the vacant WBO title?

And "African Bum" is rather offensive, he is 17-0 (16 KO) and is getting a shot at a world title, Andrade is ranked number 1 and Kautondokwa is ranked number 2 by the WBO.

If BJS was fighting this man next Saturday as a defence you'd be on here saying he is ranked number 2, unbeaten, hungry blah blah blah.

With Hearn, You are calling somebody a liar for getting it all right but the way they got there wasn't exactly the way they said they would.

Rather bitter and petty isn't it, FW and BJS are screwed, they have no title, BJS is now a proven drug cheat and hopefully BJS gets a lengthy banned, the kind of ban he called for Canelo to get.

BJS' reputation is shredded, he has just been fined 100k for abusing vulnerable people and he looked and acted like a complete a-hole and the general public/people who saw all that were genuinely disgusted.

I hope BJS just goes away and never comes back, if he does come back I hope he gets a beating.


As for Fury, that offer was made BEFORE Furys comeback, I saw an interview with Hearn where he called Fury "boring" and that was after Pianeta and that was fair comment..

Are you seriously going to say Fury was exciting and entertaining in this two comeback fights?

Fury inside the ring is boring, very boring, outside the ring he is now getting boring, shouting "dosser" isn't entertaining now.

I believe Hearn has (long term) actually dodged a bullet with Fury.

 

Hahaha you are so bitter it's actually funny LOL so so bitter. And you obviously haven't seen my posts when I absolutely slaughter Hearn/Matchroom.

Just because I believe BJS and Fury are a couple of morons and are not as good as a lot of people believe (especially Fury) doesn't make me an apologist, it's makes me a realist.

You're absolutely delusional and bitter that your boy BJS lost his title, actually handed it over like a little female dog.

You're amazing, now it's a "paper title", I personally don't think so, Andrade was lined up to fight for the title, BJS tested positive for a banned substance, wasn't granted a licence and instead of fighting his case decided to vacate.

That's not Andrade's problem or fault, BJS failed drug tests, what is Andrade suppose to do?

Actually, The man Andrade is fighting is next in line in the WBO rankings, so it's hardly like he picked or suggested he fight the 10th ranked fighter. It's just a vacate title that's all, plenty of fighters pick them up.


As for Fury, NO, FURY IS NOT EXCITING, you are blatantly talking cobblers. Watch his last two fights and tell me they were "exciting".

He is just loud and embarrassing now, shouting "You Dosser" isn't exciting.

Hearn just knows he could make big money and a lot of easy money watching a handful of his fighters knock the snot out of Fury and he lost that chance when Fury sold his "0" to Wilder.

Nobody really gives a toss about Fury and fewer will after Wilder caves his skull in, I personally can't wait, I'm TEAM WILDER for this one.

Boommbb Squaaaaaad, and make sure you log back in when Wilder effectively ends Furys career and we can talk more, it will make me smile.