Hearn on Fury’s case

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  1. Twentyman

    Twentyman John Fury’s nut sack.... Full Member

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    I notice Eddie Hearn is really trying to push the agenda against Tyson Fury, hinting that he should be stripped. Seems such a strange thing for him to suggest when he apparently wants to set up a Fury v Joshua mega fight. Churning out that narrative in the media, it doesn’t sound like he really wants to make the fight and coming out with nonsense like that would surely only serve to damage the negotiations.

    He’s suggested that Whyte should be made world champion...yet only a few weeks ago he was happy to go over the head of mandatory Whyte and pushed Joshua to the front of the queue. What’s he playing at?
     
  2. neverheardofher

    neverheardofher Member Full Member

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    IMO he knows Fury won't be stripped and is just trying to look like he's actively fighting Whytes corner.
    Only cares about the golden boy at the end of the day.
     
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  3. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Member Full Member

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    He's just sticking up for his client like any good promoter would do. Never ever take the promoter seriously, nine times out of ten they're talking complete and utter rubbish
     
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  4. moog

    moog Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is he trying to damage Furys mental health so he goes off the rails and he doesn't fight Joshua ? If he was truly fighting Whytes corner he would have sued WBC or took his fighters down the route of other organisations to reduce WBC revenue big time.
     
  5. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In what universe should Fury be stripped of the WBC title which he won so emphatically after passing vigorous VADA testing? I'm lost.
     
  6. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Coz a farmer sold the daily mail a bag of horse manure.
     
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  7. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Skysports and Hearn have been pushing really hard for the Fury vs AJ fight the second Fury won the fight against Wilder with the non stop marketing and talking about it. Even further back than that as Fury turned down a 40% fight offer to fight AJ previously.

    I see no issue with Hearn saying his fighter in Whyte should be made champion (considering he's interim champ and been WBC number 1 forover 3 years) if what Fury has been accused of is true and the investigation finds him guilty. If Fury is innocent then he has nothing to worry about (he wont get screwed over like Whyte did by the WBC).

    Or it could Hearn just fancies winding up Frank.
     
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  8. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury's nandrolone case is ancient news. It was settled already. Eddie Hearn should be saying that.

    Whyte had metabolites of Dianabol in his system (which unlike metabolites of nandrolone, cannot occur naturally) and that was only last July, but we are all happy to draw a line under that.
    And Whyte didn't have a farmer with a wild boar excuse ..... because apparenty he didn't need any explanation at all for how he became contaminated. He was just let off. But we are happy to say, most of us, 'forget it, let him fight'.

    I'm very disappointed if Hearn has stooped to sticking his nose in and discussing Fury's 5-year old PED case and talking about him being stripped.
    At these times all boxing promoters and boxers should be wishing each other the best of luck in their careers, all of which are currently on hold.
     
  9. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whyte was cleared by UKAD who stated "was not caused by any fault, negligence or wrong doing on Whyte's part". That the very low levels of metabolites found on the 20th( which he tested negative for 3 days earlier on the 17th) would not affected the fight between him and Rivas.

    Did UKAD state why after they publically said that the Fury and Hammer fight was disqualified and to be made a no contest, why that they never actioned this?
     
  10. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think they did ever explain it, no.
    If I recall correctly, Fury also tested clean around the time of the Hammer fight.

    Anyway, the point is, UKAD cleared them both already.In Whyte's case they cleared him completely and, no, it was never explained to us how Whyte had the metabolites in his system.
    In Fury's case, UKAD admitted error and their conduct was never fully explained but Fury was deemed to have been 'punished' by a backdated ban. Therefore the thing was supposedly over and done with.

    I think most of us suspect that both of them took PEDs and most of us agree that these cases are settled and no need to be dragged up again, whether the punishments or lack thereof were appropriate or not. The Fury case especially is old news.
     
  11. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The backdated ban for Fury was so weird. He hadn't been fighting (as per the official record) because of personal problems. Yet he failed a drug test, his excuse was obviously completely ridiculous, yet his punishment was a ban that had taken place in the past? Feels like someone being convicted today of a burglary which took place in 2018 and being told they're being sentenced to six months in prison starting last January.

    I don't know why boxing doesn't have the same approach as many other sports. Fans are so easy to dismiss obvious cheating because the fighter in question is their favourite. There are some on here who would be calling for immediate stripping of titles, whitewashed record books and lifetime bans if Joshua got caught and came out with some deeply feeble 'tainted meat' excuse. Look at Ben Johnson or Lance Armstrong. Yes, one was a great sprinter and the other a great cyclist, but top of the list in terms of what they represent today is simply cheating. Christ, David Warner is never going to get away from being branded a cheat and he just rubbed a cricket ball with a bit of sandpaper!
     
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  12. BigDoofus

    BigDoofus Active Member Full Member

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    Hearn knows that Joshua only got a title because Fury got stripped.
    Barry Hearn didn't want Joshua to fight Wilder within 10 years. They'd rather Fury didn't exist.
     
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  13. pow

    pow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was originally told by UKAD the test levels were negligible, likely from contaminated supplements, given advice about future nutrition and told that no further action would be taken. 2 years later they decided to bring charges. These are facts that are conveniently left out by people who want to push the drug cheat agenda. At this time the Fury's where still being trained out of caravans, had no nutrionists or dieticians and It was Peter cooking the food for them on a gas stove. There was a massive witch hunt against Fury at the time due to him refusing to conform to anything and testing positive for cocaine and he was badly damaging boxing's image. There were people in the boxing establishment who wanted them out of the way and pressured UKAD into bringing charges. Warren saw the potential though and bought him back, advised him to take a plea deal with UKAD (which saved face on both sides and allowed him to get his BBBoC liscence back), they could have won the case but it would have gone on for more years, racked up huge legal bills and essentially finished his career.
     
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  14. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you believe the uncastrated boar story?
     
  15. pow

    pow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This was something picked up on by the press and people like you. It was one of a handful of possible explanations given to UKAD at the time of the original investigation.
     
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