Hearn says he would pay Wilder $15 mil to fight Breazeale

Trying to make a case for Wilder being a HOFer on his current achievements might be the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen posted on these boards and that's really really saying something.

Well played sir.

 

Wilder will not fight Joshua, no matter what the offer is.

His handlers know that he wouldn't have a chance of winning, so they will not permit this fight now. They may cash Wilder out when he's a few years older.

 

Why does it? The market has changed an awful lot since then. Wilder vs Fury hadn't happened so Wilders value and resume was still in the toilet (biggest purse at that point 2.5 million) and Fury was a million miles away from signing an 80-100 million dollar deal with ESPN.

You just carry on spinning things to suit your own agenda.

 

He was offered that sum to fight AJ and now the exact same purse to fight DB, with add-ons of a two-fight deal with AJ to follow. Turning down the first offer has led to circumstances which has helped engineer the second - much better - offer. No agenda, just an observation... and giving context. There is literally zero spin. Eddie has upped the stakes as Wilder et al hoped he would....

 

It’s sold under 400k buys lol stop acting like it did this crazy thing for him, cause you’re exaggerating. AJ is running out of opponents

 

Thank you. But I'm not trying to make a case. He's a lock already.

Name a retired, eligible heavyweight champion with eight consecutive successful title defenses who isn't in the Hall of Fame?

Vitali Klitschko got in on the first ballot. Wilder will tie Vitali's string of consecutive successful title defenses against Breazeale.

You guys "rag" on Wilder so much you don't take into consideration how few heavyweight champions ever strung together so many defenses.

What Wilder AND Joshua are doing is kind of rare. The Klitschkos did it recently, so people think it's the norm. Historically, it's not.

 

Hearn must be on crack.

 

Will you lay any criticism at the feet of the Bronze Bummer should he tell Hearn to get shagged? That would at least be a step on from current negotiations given that Wilder and his 'team' can't be bothered to reply to a email or pick up a phone.

 

You asked if this offer meant that the previous $15m offer was trash and I told you the market had changed. That change isn't measured solely in the performance of the fight in LA. It's also a product of the press and reaction that it garnered subsequently and which will have been tracked by Hearn and Arum, who made a very big offer to Fury on the basis of what he learned. ESPN haven't made that investment lightly, they will have tracked social mentions, press reports, page views on their sites etc. Hearn will have done the same. Understand I don't think it's catapulted Wilder into the stratosphere, but it has made it worthwhile to increase the offer to him based on what they think a series of fights could now deliver.

As for AJ, there will always be opponents for a unified champion. Besides from the mandatories he has a skillful promoter who is already making moves to build future opponents such as Usyk, Hrjovic and Hunter.

 

I could ask you a question about world champions who have had so few mandatory challengers in such a run of defences or who had faced less top ranked opponents on the run to the title shot or as champ and the answers would also be anomalies in the history of boxing. Wilder is essentially a glitch in the system that has allowed him to exploit a number of situations to benefit his own career.

It's his life and ita not for me to judge how he puts food on his family's table but let's not pretend he's a HOFer. That way lays damnation.

 

Laughable.

He's a "glitch."

Got it.

 

The heavyweight division is f**ked until Wilder gets knocked-out. He won't fight Joshua for $500M and he will cherry pick his fights until the end of time.

 

You're not going to answer any of the questions are you? I thought so.

Here they are again if you're feeling about being a bit more genuine in your approach:

Can you name a HOFer who ran through a set of such lowly ranked opponents to win their one belt?

Can you name a HOFer who had so few universally top 10 ranked defences? Or mandatory challengers in as many defences?

Thought not. #GLITCHPLEASE

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If it turns out to be a legit offer and not a PR stunt and it gets turned down by Wilder, yes I would. It's an unbelievable deal....

 

First of all, you didn't ask a question before this post.

Second, if you are still harping about who Wilder didn't fight "BEFORE" he got a title shot - after he's already been a champion for FOUR YEARS - you've run out of things to complain about.

And last I checked, Wilder has successfully defended against the current Ring #2 contender (Fury) and the current Ring #5 contender (Ortiz) -- and had them on the floor nearly a half-dozen times combined. And everyone Wilder's fought has been a WBC ranked contender. And the WBC heavyweight ratings are better than any other org's ratings.

Have you seen the other org's ratings? Otto Wallin? Tom Schwarz? Junior Fa? Tyrone Sprong? Kyotaro Fujmoto? Fres Oquendo? Trevor Bryan (who beat then-ranked B.J. Flores for a "regular" belt)? Good Lord.

You want Wilder to fight more guys from THOSE "universally ranked" orgs? Screw that. The WBC contenders are fine.

You've been bashing Wilder with the same old arguments for so long you haven't even realized that time has passed your arguments by.

Wilder is a dominant heavyweight champion. He has been for years. WAKE THE HELL UP.

Vitali Klitschko is a first-ballot Hall of Famer. How many "universally ranked challengers" did he beat? Vitali fought and beat WBC challengers. That's what Holmes did. That's what Wilder is doing, too.

Wilder's record isn't much different up to now, except Wilder didn't lose by stoppage twice like Vitali did.

I don't know why you're so angry. Wilder's going to the Hall of Fame. Deal with it.