Hearn will offer Wilder $7 - $8 mil to fight Whyte

It'll obviously be DAZN if it's the US. Not sure why that would be an issue though. The part about Joshua won't be the case though, Hearn spoke about it previously - he was offering Wilder $5m to fight anyone of his choice with no strings attached regarding Joshua if he wanted to, would imagine this'll be the same.

Wilder would KO him, I think, but Whyte would rough him up before he did. Not sure Wilder has the balls to take the fight and risk the Joshua payday. Daft though - guarantees him a bigger split of the pie against Joshua if he did win it.

 

Well Breazeale is a bag of turd, Breazeale himself gave it away months ago that he was fighting Wilder, it's the worst kept secret in boxing.

So yeah it's Wilder Vs Breazeale next.

 

Yeah, I agree entirely with that. Hearn can definitely sell the fight on that basis. Think Wilder will still say no and bank on Haymon getting him out of another mandatory.

 

Valid points.

But I think it’s important to point out that Wilder has always said he is open to the Whyte fight so long as it guarantees him an AJ fight for the next fight. Wilder has always said he wants AJ now, not Whyte.

To every observer that seems like a pretty valid request, to have a guaranteed shot at Joshua straight after. But Hearn put up some nonsense about how he can’t agree a contract for a fight after another fight first (even though he’s done that many times in the past - AJ v Wlad for instance).

In summary: just Hearn bull****.

 

Again why can’t hearn take the 7 and add it to the 15 and give the people what they want. I would say no to Whyte not because I don’t think I can’t beat him but because Hearn thinks he can always get his way and to be honest he needs wilder for DAZN in the US. I wouldn’t line Hearns pockets twice especially when he makes the fight I want a lot harder than it needs to be. He also stacked the deck in Joshua’s favor so much that it would irritate the **** out of me to help him with DAZN. To go along with the fact that I just don’t like him. I would keep fighting mandatories and Joshua can forget about being undisputed. But I’m a ***** like that I wouldn’t cave either.

 

Yeah, I wish they would just fight already and get it over with. Why the delay? Get it over with so maybe a better fight can be made sooner.

 

What changed your mind?

 

I mean, Parker was a legit top 5 HW. Whyte got the win.

 

Exactly, Hearn is slowly cornering Wilder, I'm not saying Wilder can't escape so to speak and win the fight but Hearn is cornering Wilder to face Whyte.

Hearn has spoken before about "side purses" when it comes to purse bids and he'll do the same here as soon as Whyte is called by the WBC as mandatory Wilder has done himself out of a huge payday.

And it will expose Team Wilder and what they really pay because they will take the mandatory split and let the world know just how little Team Wilder pay.

 

You forget two very important things he has a voluntary he could take which gives him 1yr and he has another full year before he actually has to fight Whyte if he is made the mandatory so if Hearn and company wanna play that game . Wilder has already said he will freeze him out for two years Lol. That would be funny as **** not including if he got a exception from the WBC to fight a 2nd voluntary.

 

Wilder wants Joshua, it's that simple. He don't like Hearn and the only fight he wants Hearn involved in of his is the Joshua fight.

 

Yeah I've heard Wilder say it myself, something like "guarantee me AJ and I'll deal with Whyte".

Problem for Wilder is Hearn has options, he has worked with or is working with AJ, Whyte, Chisora, he works with Team Parker well, Higgins said last night after the fight in the post fight presser "Ill talk to Eddie in a couple of weeks and see what we can do" and Hearn is even talking with the likes of Miller.

So he can throw obstacles in the way, make it very difficult for Wilder now (because of the DAZN deal) to get legit or decent opponents because he can and will offer those opponents more money to come to England for good money and fight over here.

So Wilder will have a difficult time in the argument saying he is the real number 1 when he is fighting Breazeale and after that at best Ortiz II and then it's very slim pickings.

On the other hand, Wilder can earn 3-4 times his biggest purse fighting Whyte and get himself some huge exposure, be part of a huge PPV event in front of a huge live gate if he wanted to come over to the UK and throw himself in amongst it all.


The problem might not be Wilder, if it isn't then it's the people behind or around him, they have let him get in to this position where his options are limited and he isn't earning big money after all this time as a Champion.

 

Dude all Wilder needs to do is show up to Povetkin vs Joshua and tell Joshua “you’ll never be undisputed without fighting me and I’m not fighting anyone from matchroom till you fight me tell your boss to me make me a real offer.” Then just freeze out matchroom guys who get in mandotory positions by making them wait full years and use voluntary defenses to make them wait even longer. Then let Hearn know if you got 7-8 million to give me for Chisora you got 25 million to give me for Joshua

 

With respect, how does that make sense, taking the 7 million for Whyte and adding to the figure for AJ?

The reason those figures are thrown around is thats what they believe those individual fights are worth and what's Wilders splits would be.

I sort of understand what you're saying.. basically pay Wilder more than the 15 million already and get the fight done.

In an ideal world, sure, fine but it doesn't work like that.

The problem is everybody thinks AJ Vs Wilder is worth more than it's actually worth, its a big fight but it's not a huge monster fight, it's nowhere near the money maker AJ Vs Fury would be for example.

I actually think Joshua Vs Whyte would equal Joshua Vs Wilder here in the UK and Whyte wouldn't be offered 15 million for an AJ fight, not even half of that. Wilder was offered a fantastic deal.

Wilder is earning 1.5-2 million a fight for a reason, he doesn't generate big money, he just doesn't, he should, being an American Heavyweight World Champion but for whatever the reason he as been poorly promoted and isn't making what he should have done.

 

The guy just beat Luis Ortiz, I seriously doubt he's worried about Dillian Whyte.

How about the idea- and this seems more sensible- that he didn't want to fight Whyte because he wanted to unify the division against the other champion at HW? That seems a lot more logical. Let's not make Whyte out to be the boogeyman because he absolutely isn't that.