Hearns at 185 vs Marciano

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  1. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    Let's just consider that Hearns was a natural 185 lbs... we all know that was ~ Rocky's normal fight weight.

    So who would win?

    I tend to think a chin might not improve that much with larger size, so that may be a negative against Hearns.

    On the other hand, Hearns may just possess better speed and boxing ability at this new, theoretical, weight than Rocky ever showed.

    A Rock against a Cobra, both at a natural 185, who wins?
     
  2. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Narciano by KO
     
  3. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Rock by KO......He hit like a MUCH heavier man!!!
     
  4. Sonny's jab

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    Well, if we're scaling-up a 147/154 type Hearns to 185, I guess he's gonna be about 6'5 and with about 84" reach.
    His power's gonna be incredible.He's gonna be hard to beat.
     
  5. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I still think marciano uses him as a tooth pick.
     
  6. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

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    Scale him up and Hearns would still proportionally be somewhat vulnerable to the body and have dizzy legs when hit by the big pain truck and Marciano's truck is a mack truck with mean intentions written all over it.

    Hearns' jab would be incredible, his speed for the weight would be amazing, his courage would be unquestionable and his beard would be good, but Marciano crumbled good beards and broke people down, literally ... Hearns would get broken to the body ala his first meeting with Ray Leonard, except that Marciano would hurt him much worse IMO. Hearns being the warrior that he was, would go down fighting, but it wouldn't be enough.
     
  7. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    You can't just say "let's assume Hearns was 185lbs". Nature doesn't work like that. Scale an ant up to 1 meter in size and it breaks it legs under its own weight. Do you think it would still be able to lift 50 times its own weight? Do you think Hearns will still hit as hard at 185lbs? This is silly speculation.
     
  8. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe the lt. heavyweight Hearns against Marciano at his lightest, which I think was 179, would be a more realistic scenario...but as much as I'd like to say Hearns could pull off an upset, down the line Marciano would starch him.
     
  9. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    True, and I'd take him to give Rock a serious beating if that were the case. As it is, these H2H P4P matchups aren't very practical. Too many variables involved.
     
  10. Mob

    Mob Active Member Full Member

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    Didn't we see this already? Oh, wait...Hagler didn't hit as hard as Marciano did.

    Rocky may have gottne cut up a bit....but once he started landing to the body, it is OVER.

    The Rock wins by brutal KO.
     
  11. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    A natural WW with a at the best mediocre chin and great power at WW and LMW against a natural CW/ HW with a great chin and great HW- power, very hard to say, I would say a draw or something, great thread btw... :thumbsup
     
  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    :roll:
     
  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    if tommy gets to do that, then marciano got to go up to 6'2 225lb with 78" reach?. imagine what a nightmare rock would be then
     
  14. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    These kind of match-ups are plain crazy. If we imagine Hearns as a natural 185lb fighter then I assume he's not going to have the same handspeed as he did at his peak. It's a bit distorted how Hearns is physically going to perform with such a question being asked.

    The realistic match-up would the cruiserweight Hearns that we actually seen against Marciano. And my guess is that he lasts about 6 rounds tops.
     
  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    If Hearns was a natural 185lb fighter then how his speed and power is at the weight is anyones guess. I have no idea, and neither does anyone else.