Hearns offer to Wilder revealed

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  1. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see where you’re coming from and I don’t wholly disagree but Fury has no belts and Joshua is the No1 Heavyweight in the World making that fight the priority. Should Wilder beat Joshua then Fury in a rematch for the undisputed Heavyweight Championship of the World would be preferable.
     
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  2. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fury rematch may hold the key for PPV success in America though. The AJ fight, especially if held in the UK, doesn't.

    Either way i still dont trust a thing Hearn says.
     
  3. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Nice one Hearn. Make a semi-reasonable offer after the WBC have ordered a Fury-Wilder rematch. And as predicted the bum boys lap it up.
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    So a 60/40 split with a $15 mill guarantee. That's more than he made fighting Fury, a damn whole lot more, the guarantee alone is probably more than double what he made vs Fury and will be more than he'd likely get in the rematch.

    But Wilder has already gone on record saying that he will fight Fury next no matter what money is offered or split. So Hearn is wasting his time.

    Hearn also recently said he would offer Fury 60/40 split too if Fury wants it. That puts pressure on Wilder to offer Fury more than the 40% the WBC mandated.
     
  5. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Wilder turns down 60/40 after getting clowned by Fury he is a joke.
     
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  6. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You know full well that unifications are given precedence over any voluntary, rematch or otherwise. Wilder will do his usual and give this latest offer the silent treatment because, quite simply, he's a fraud and a bottle job. The excuses are all out and done with, Deonkey's on a quack fest, plain and simple.
     
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  7. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So 60/40 split, the chance of making more money in one fight than in any previous.

    More money than the Fury rematch.

    More importantly an opportunity to capture ALL the belts!!!

    Sorry but on what grounds can the excuse be made to not fight Joshua next.
     
  8. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only one team is making the effort from all the noises, wilder doesn’t wanna fight AJ and will fight Fury cause he’s getting 60/40. Mad how warren will accept 60/40 to wilder from his friends but not from Hearn, imagine being that bitter.
     
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  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think AJ should fight in the USA not because of Wilder but for his legacy ect,that said Fury showed why so many are scared to fight abroad cause one can fight the fight of ones life and still get stuffed.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I wouldn't even offer him 30%




    Olympic gold & world amateur championships silver

    vs Olympic bronze

    WBA, IBF, & WBO unified champ

    vs WBC champ

    And AJ fought way, way better opposition in the amateurs than Donkey did

    Cammarelle x 2 - Olympic gold, silver, and bronze medalist, a 2 x world amateur gold medalist + 2 x bronze, and a 3 x European solver medalist
    Magomedrasul Medzhidov - 3 x world amateur championships gold medalist, Olympic bronze, European gold medalist
    Erislandy Savon - world amateur gold and silver medalist, Olympic bronze
    Ivan Dychko - world amateur silver medalist x 2 + 1 x bronze, 2 x Olympic bronze
    Zhang Zhilei - Olympic silver medalist, world amateur bronze x 2
    Mihai Nistor
    Erik Pfeifer - 2 x world amateur bronze
    Sergey Kuzmin - European gold and silver medalist

    AJ went 7-2 against them albeit a few of those wins very controversial

    In the amateurs the only guys with a pulse Donkey fought are

    Clemente Russo - Olympic silver x 2, World amateur gold x 2
    Rakhim Chakhiev - Olympic gold, World amateur silver
    Osmay Acosta - Olympic bronze, World amateur silver
    Evgengy Romanov
    Isiah Thomas
    Krzysztof Zimnoch

    Donkey went 2-4 against them


    AJ has had 22 fights and fought

    Wlad
    Povetkin
    Parker
    Whyte
    Takam
    Breazeale
    Martin

    Donkey has had 41 fights and fought 3 opponents with a pulse

    A 50% Fury who was robbed blind
    Ortiz
    Fat penguin Stiverne


    AJ and Donkey share some common opponents

    Donkey beat Mohamed Arjaoui on countback + 10 -10

    AJ beat Arjaoui 16-7

    AJ stopped Jason Gavern in 3 in just his 11th fight, Donkey stopped him in 4 in his 31st fight

    AJ destroyed Eric Molina in 3 in his 17th fight with contemptuous ease, Molina hurt Donkey and gave him a tough fight, lasting into the 9th against a 33-0 Donkey lol

    The 41 year old way past it Wlad albeit still very formidable who fought AJ would've knocked Donkey out just like he did in sparring

    Wlad didn't even floor AJ in sparring

    Cash cow AJ probably earns more per fight than peasant Donkey had earned in his entire career prior to facing Fury who Donkey needed to piggyback off the charisma and fame off to drag him out of obscurity, and if not in 1 definitely 2

    AJ sells out 90,000 seater stadiums, how many fights would it take Donkey to sell that many tickets? lol

    Not counting the robbery win over Fury, Donkey sold a combined 54,000 tickets for his last 4 fights (I rounded that up to 54,000 out of sympathy)

    I don't know how many he sold (or rather Fury sold) for his last one but I've heard 17,000 banded about, albeit some of them were comp, so let's just go with that figure for now

    That makes it 71,000 for 5 fights

    AJ sold over 323,000 for his last 4 fights

    AJ is one of the 2 biggest draws in all of boxing
     
  11. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder getting 60/40 against AJ at this point earns him a minimum of $10m more than the Fury rematch. With the so called 50/50 two way rematch clause there is no excuse at all. He either wants it or doesn’t but in all honesty my opinion is haymin is trying to keep US PPV alive and using Wilders lack of IQ and trust as a tool in his own private battle.
     
  12. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's fantasic offer for Wilder to be honest.
     
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  13. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t know it’s hard to believe anything Eddie says. He’s like that ex girlfriend who texts you when she knows your asleep so she can say she reached out and you never answered lol
     
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  14. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    With the IBF they are but not the WBC. And even the IBF have their limitations with that rule, as Warrington is now finding out.

    The 'fraud' aspect used to be something I levied at Wilder but Ortiz is a very legit win, so that nonsense can be dropped.
     
  15. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Luis Ortiz is flat out passed his best and overrated. According to Deonkey fans, the greatest heavyweight to never hold a world title. Fury was a cherry pick that anywhere else would have gone wrong. And yes, unifications tend to take precedence over voluntaries regardless of governing bodies as they usual make a crap ton of money off the back of them.

    Unfortunately, the WBC (Wilder Bodyguard Concil) don't want to run the risk of their guy losing the belt