Hearns v Trinidad At 147lbs 15rds?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Tommy v Tito, two lanky bangers fighting at welterweight 15rds.Who wins?
    I like Tommy by ko.
     
  2. PhillyPhan69

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    This used to be a common fight to look at back in the esb days, but don’t think it has been done in a while.

    I can’t fathom Tito fighting in the 15 rd era. But am not sure that Tommy would flourish there either, fortunately neither guy would make that trek very often anyway l. But I don’t know how the conditioning and training would alter the approach of Tito if at all, so I will look at it through a 12 rd lens.

    I think Tommy starts fast and as the norm Tito likely starts slow. That is a bad mix, and I think Tommy drops him in the first or 2nd...my initial thought is Hearns in 2. But if Tito could keep safe (not really his style) I could see him force the fight (not the best move against Hearns) and then gets stopped in around 5-8.

    I like Tito but think he would be hard pressed by a superior boxer who had more range and power than he did.

    I call it Hearns by 5th rd ko
     
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  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I also see an early KO for Hearns. I feel as soon as Tito decides to stand and trade hes done so it could be very early depending on how confident Tito feels in his power.
     
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  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns - possibly by KO. Although, while Trinidad could be put down, he did not appear to be that easy to actually stop.

    Hearns is also proven over 15, against another great fighter in Benitez (albeit, at 154). So, even if Hearns decides/has to box his way to a decision, I think this is all in his favor.

    In any event, too big a gap in levels for Tito to traverse, in my opinion.
     
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  5. Fergy

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    Tommy by sharp ko around 8 but he has to pick himself up of the floor at one point .
     
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  6. ChrisJS

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    Hearns probably boxes safely and wins a decision. I can see both going down.
     
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  7. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I could honestly see a scenario where Hearns simply outboxes Trinidad if he's so inclined
     
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  8. mcvey

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    The way Wright non plussed Tito with his jab makes me go for Tommy ,there are very few men I pick over Hearns at 147 anyway.
     
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  9. Jel

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    Right - I'm going to try and make the case for Trinidad.

    A fantastic puncher, resilient (numerous recoveries from early knockdowns), he got stronger as a fight wore on and I reckon he'd have been able to do 15 rounds easily.

    Hearns's chin was fallible. As good a boxer as he was, I think he would have gone after Trinidad and potentially would have left himself open. Trinidad at least has a puncher's chance.

    That's all I've got.
     
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  10. 2piece

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    Hearns starts too fast for Tito to pose a threat to Tito, who's poor footwork in the beginning of fights makes him a sitting duck. Also it puts him in a position where he doesn't avoid Hearns at all. Hearns knocks him down 3 times in the first to take a quick victory.
     
  11. PernellSweetPea

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    I think Hearns would probably knock him out in 4 rounds. Tito never fought someone with that kind of sharp right hand. Either way Hearns wins early or by decision.
     
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  12. Reinhardt

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    If he can get past Tommy's jab, maybe
     
  13. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As an old Civil War General once said: It's who gets there "firstest, with the mostest", being both guys pack heavy punches.
     
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  14. Berlenbach

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    Think Tito's being a bit underappreciated here. Sure he had his faults but so did Hearns. I've no doubt Hearns can box his way to a decision, but Tommy rarely boxed if he could slug it out. And if he starts brawling there's always a chance Tito does a Barkley on him. So Hearns probably, but it gets interesting if Tito does tag him.
     
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  15. Jel

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    Agree.

    As you say, Hearns didn't choose to box that often at that point of his career so I think he would have gone after Tito. There's every chance Hearns detonates a right hand on Tito's chin and flattens him, but if he went after him from the start Trinidad could land one of his bombs and I don't see Hearns taking that very well either. If Hearns was the best pure puncher in WW history, Tito wasn't far behind.

    This would end in a KO, but I give Trinidad a puncher's chance at the very least. He was a heck of a good welterweight and a wicked finisher so if he hurt Hearns I think he'd finish him.
     
  16. Mendoza

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    Hearns was a top boxer with great speed with an almost unfair reach advantage at welterweight. Oh yes he’s also a tremendous puncher.

    I think he’d destroy a somewhat limited Tito inside six rounds.