Hearns Vs Leonard 2

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  1. eborted_l

    eborted_l New Full Member

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    Posted this in general but in hindsight it probably belongs here

    I have only ever seen this fight once and after hearing the whole story about how Tommy was "robbed" i was suprised i myself scored it 114-113 in favour of sugar ray. I should here point out i am actually a bigger fans of Hearns than Leonard so bias is ruled out. Admittedly i was quite new 2 boxing when i saw the fight but still knew how to score, all my other scorecards previously and after seem to fit in with some POV of the boxing fraternity apart from this one where the consensus was that Tommy schooled ray. Only 1 round did i not have at least one judge support my view, so maybe my common sense had deserted me that round and i made a mistake but that means i would still have it only a 114-113 to hearns, draw hardly a robbery. Would be interesting to know how you lot scored the fight and your opinions etc. Here is my full scorecard. First score Leonard, second score Hearns.

    1.9-10
    2.10-9
    3.8-10
    4.10-9
    5.10-9
    6.10-9
    7.9-10
    8.10-10
    9.10-9
    10.10-9
    11.8-10
    12.10-9

    114-113.

    Thank you.
     
  2. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I was very hard pushed to give Leonard a round up until the one where he rocked Hearns. I can't mind which round that was exactly. Not sure how an earth you managed to give Hearns only two of the first six rounds. More like vice versa.


    Strange scoring indeed.
     
  3. eborted_l

    eborted_l New Full Member

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    it was either 4 or 5, either 2 or all 3 of the judges gave it 10-8 to Leonard. i shall see if i can watch the fight again tomorrow and see if my perceptions have changed.
     
  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Obvious Leonard win.

    Everyone and their mother knew it when the scores were announced.

    Tommy was, as usual, a gentlemen.

    Personally I would of punched him in the face again and knocked him down for a third time.
     
  5. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I think if you watch the fight closely and carefully over the first 6 rounds you'll have Hearns ahead. Leonard wasn't getting off with much at all up until the round where he had Hearns all over the place. Hearns took those early rounds with his workrate behind the jab and the ocassional right hand.
     
  6. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it was a clear decision for Hearns. It's a shame it was scored the way it was.
     
  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've only watched it once, but for me Hearns clearly took it. I was astounded by how well he reacted, very impressive.

    If the rounds where Leonard rocked Hearns was scored 10-8 in Leonard's favour a draw might be plausible, otherwise I just don't see it.
     
  8. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I actually had it a draw, only judged it once though
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And they say Meldrick Taylor was shot! I was surprised to still be seeing Tommy in the ring.

    Look at his last fight people!

    A very slow paced bout with Hearns looking even more shaky than in his last bout. I guess you could say score-wise it was about even since Ray had Tommy teetering on the brink a few times. That has to count for something.

    Had the bout been staged 4 years earlier I believe Tommy with his quickness and sharp reflexes would have ended it almost immediately. That's the only way it could have possibly ended. He was that good.
     
  10. AliFrazier71

    AliFrazier71 Member Full Member

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    Rooster, you crack me up! Hearns was no longer in his prime, but he was not shot. He went on to beat Virgil Hill for the WBA lightheavyweight belt after the second Leonard fight.

    Where do you come up with these things? :huh
     
  11. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    The man is in cuckoo land.
     
  12. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Honestly... Going into the fight I thought Hearns had no chance. His punch resistance was gone. I know this Rooster has an axe to grind but at the time many people, including me thought Hearns was shot.

    I'd longed for this rematch and then when Leonard finally granted it after Tommy looked washed up I thought it was a abd show. It seemed to me that Ray was only willing to fight again because he'd seen the shell of Hearns.

    Leonard went down in my estimation as a man. You've got to understand that at this point he was probably my favourite all-time fighter. I began to think that maybe he had waited for Hagler... I suddenly, for the first time, started to see why Ray was disliked by some people.

    Anyway, the fight was great. I think it was close (but all fights between these 2 would be) but Hearns won this one.

    When Tommy dropped Ray for the first time you could see the tension and the weight of the defeats to Ray and Marvin just lift from his shoulders. He'd been such a great fighter, labelled unfairly as a nearly man, and here he was showing them... Great moment in sports for me.

    BTW, Leonard's arms are huge in this fight. He must have been pumped up on something...
     
  13. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Clear win for Hearns. The draw was bullsh*t, Hearns did enough to take the fight even though the fight was not a shut out victory either.
     
  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    There were talks starting at the weigh in that Leonard was using steroids and what not.

    Really, really wouldn't doubt it.
     
  15. PopeJackson

    PopeJackson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had Hearns winning by a lot.