Hearns vs. Monzon

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  1. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I pick Monzon, but........
     
  2. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wouldn't put money on this one.
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Monzon is given ABSOLUTE HELL but I'm guessing the consensus will be he realises the trouble, turns it on and looks for the stoppage.
     
  4. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this is a bad match stylisticly for monzon. he is the sturdier.......but hearns has the skills to outbox him and the power to keep him at bay.

    but in 15 rounds i think monzon can slow him down and beat him down in round 14. but hearns would be ahead on points.
     
  5. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tough match up.

    monzon would give hearns trouble in a couple of rounds, but i see hearns taking this one. UD
     
  6. Street Lethal

    Street Lethal Active Member Full Member

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    I pick Hearns, too, but this would be a very tough fight for him.
     
  7. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Monzon was a more solid middleweight but he would get hit a few times,Carlos had solid chin
     
  8. Manassa

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    Carlos Monzon? Slow, methodical, predictable, somehow effective.

    No.

    That was the Monzon of '75, '76, '77. If you watch a peak Monzon from around 1970, it's much more obvious why he was so good - strong, active, heavy handed, rough, offensive - even athletic.

    As Monzon's career wore on and he became a bit less concerned with training, he became slower and more calculated. This is the man who was still great enough to pick apart Rodrigo Valdez, but this was a different version from the young terror who brutalized Nino Benvenuti.

    In his title winning days and around that time, Monzon was more aggressive (though he boxed passively and excellently against Bennie Briscoe) - especially against taller opponents, or ones that equalled him in height or boxing ability.

    Against Hearns, we could probably lay money on the fact Monzon would press the action. His aim would be literally to smack the life out of Hearns with the right hand; his attacks would come in the form of aggressive one-twos, with a bit of strong jabbing in between, and the odd bit of inside work.

    I think Hearns would catch Monzon a fair bit at the start, but he wouldn't have the firepower to take Monzon out, who took some hellish shots in his career but was never felled for the full count. A windmill right hand from Valdez, that was as hard as any middleweight punch Hearns ever delivered, decked Monzon for a fleeting second. It was right on the button, but that's all Valdez, a notorious hitter, could manage. Monzon was up in the blink of an eye and continued to fight his fight, treating Valdez with his usual disdain.

    And this is precisely where the two differ the most - Hearns was courageous when hurt and there was always a sense he could pull something out of the bag, but with Monzon, there was a sense of impending doom; you knew you couldn't take him out, you knew you couldn't fluster him, and you knew he wanted your head on a spike. Monzon didn't fight bravely when hurt, he just fought as he always did. Maliciously and malevolently.

    Hearns would fight gallantly as always and probably even outbox Monzon for portions of the fight, but would soon be weakened by Monzon's debilitating attack from both inside and out. Monzon's sheer strength, for which he was renowned for, heavy handedness and imposing mentality would almost certainly take its toll on the spindly Hearns, who was never known as particularly durable.

    Hearns would likely give Monzon something big to think about, and he might even achieve something out of the ordinary - like cutting Monzon or dropping him for a second, but even in these stages we would always know who the boss is, as the ever-sinister and blank expression of Monzon constrasts with the aggressive but somehow hopeful look on Hearns' face.

    Hearns would be stopped, I'm sure of that. It's a question of when - I say Monzon needs a few more rounds to do it than Marvin Hagler since he's not as explosive, but he gets the job done as usual. Monzon TKO10.
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very well thought out post Manassa with plenty of backup and totally believable yet lacking tha bias of a SuzieQ argument.
     
  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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  11. Manassa

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    Thank you - talking of Nick, where is he?
     
  12. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tommy Hearns is one of my favorite fighter's but Monzon knocks Tommy out late.
     
  13. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Monzon beats him down late after getting outboxed for a couple rounds.
     
  14. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I cant say I know MM. I'm more concerned with getting H. Hank, Mr. Writer and PI back on the board.
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Hearns fragility would ultimately be exposed in the middle to latter rounds but somewhere before Monzon would have to prove his world class whiskers and recuperative powers. Still, at middleweight, I pick Monzon over Hearns 8 or 9 times out of 10.