Hearns vs Trinidad at 154 lbs

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Longhhorn71, May 16, 2012.


  1. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,714
    3,455
    Jan 6, 2007
    Probably both their best fighting weights.

    Both failed in great "move-up" fights against the
    very best MW's ever.

    How long does this one go????
     
  2. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,432
    32
    Dec 18, 2011
    hearns is almost unbeatable at that weight imo. i would likely favour him over any fighter that competed in that divisions history. hearns KO
     
  3. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,225
    1,636
    Sep 13, 2006
    Pick 'em fight. On one hand I might be more inclined to wager on Tito because he could really really punch and had the better chin, often getting up to win, only getting stopped once, after receiving a boxing lesson from Hopkins. Hearns was game and would engage, and that chin and thin legs simply could not withstand that massive power. If he thought Sugar Ray's hook was hard, wait til he gets nailed by Tito's hook.

    On the other hand, Hearns was taller, rangier, quicker, and was a very fast starter, much faster of a starter than Tito, and could really blast that right in there, particularly early on. So he might just catch the slow starting Tito early and finish the job. If he doesn't, I think Tito eventually catches him somewhere and takes him out.

    Another view is that Hearns, if convinced to box cautiously, could outbox him, but I just don't see that happening for the distance. He'd engage Tito in there somewhere and either drill him or get drilled.

    Lots of potential permutations here, which is why I ultimately say it is a pick 'em.
     
  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

    13,281
    11,640
    Mar 19, 2012
    I gotta go with Hearns. They both could punch but Tommy was the better boxer which usually makes the difference. Hearns had quicker hands and that jab would be a big problem for Trinidad.

    Id go..65% Hearns 35% Trinidad.

    Hearns had a tendency to war a little too much and forget his defense if Tito did floor him I think the fight is over. Im giving Trinidad a little more than a puncher`s chance.
     
  5. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,461
    347
    Jul 13, 2007
    I'd go with Hearns to get there faster...and he had that great jab to set things up. The pick is Hearns, but Trinidad's left hook absolutely ripped...explosive fight.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

    15,217
    169
    Jul 23, 2004
    Trinidad was dropped from single punches, many times, at welterweight. This proves he had a bad chin. Getting up off the canvas showed he had good recovery powers.

    If you want to judge them only at 154lbs, Trinidad was dropped against Vargas. Hearns was never dropped at 154lbs.

    Hearns was put away by barrages 3-4-5 punches from Leonard and Hagler. Barkley was a one punch KO, yes.
     
  7. tommy the hat

    tommy the hat Active Member Full Member

    1,151
    9
    Sep 2, 2008
    I give the edge to Hearns in this one.
     
  8. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

    19,247
    20
    Dec 12, 2009
    Hearns stops the slow starting Tito early, somewhere in the 2nd or 3rd after hitting him with many jabs and BOOM lands that right...Tito would get up, but hurt and would get nailed by another right and stays down.

    Tito never faced anyone close to having Hearns power.
     
  9. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,432
    32
    Dec 18, 2011
    and let's be honest, trinidad was getting caught and hurt by right hands time and time again against vargas. once el feroz got into his rhythm he was able to rock tito. i don't see his stellar "dick punch when in trouble" strategy working here...
     
  10. gregor

    gregor Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,962
    3
    Dec 3, 2005
    Hearns power would be too much for Tito, and I think he puts enough damage on Tito early, so his chin wouldn't be a problem.
     
  11. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,496
    13
    Jun 2, 2009
    This sounds like the realistic pattern that fight will unfold as, I could possibly see Tito hanging in there a little longer (5 - 6), if hearns isn't in rush to finish him when he's getting the knockdowns, but Hearns is in another class of fighter.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

    42,723
    264
    Jul 22, 2004
    Tito's defence was really open, if Hearns really let's his hands and fireworks go early he could take him out in the first 2 rounds
     
  13. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,100
    8,529
    Jul 17, 2009

    Very true. The only two fighters I'd give a 50/50 shot in beating Hearns at that weight are the two Sugar Rays.
     
  14. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,462
    2,814
    Aug 26, 2011

    If he didn't get him early though.. I see Tito bossing if the fight went past 8
     
  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,095
    13,016
    Jan 4, 2008
    I don't get all this "Hearns was unbeatable at 154" when he didn't meet anyone who was both really good and natural at that weight. If he had beat Mugabi, McCallum and Jackson, fair enough, but the closest he came to this was ducking McCallum. Who Steward himself thought would beat him if I remember correctly.