Heavyweight 31-0-0 competition analysis Ali, Tyson, Wilder, Marciano

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder is the only fighter in boxing history to reach 31-0 (KO 31) doing it vs better competition than Wlad (who failed to reach 31-0) or Foreman

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    31-0-0 (KO 28 ) vs 428-150, 2.9-1 ratio, Bowe
    31-0-0 (KO 27 ) vs 466-181, 2.6-1 ratio, Mesi
    31-0-0 (KO 22 ) vs 405-162, 2.5-1 ratio, Holmes
    31-0-0 (KO 20 ) vs 665-268, 2.5-1 ratio, Nielsen
    31-0-0 (KO 31 ) vs 428-196, 2.2-1 ratio, Wilder
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    eltirado, Mar 21, 2014
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  2. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Added Marciano and his Malik Scott to the list :yep
     
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  3. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So far 23 Heavyweights to reach 31-0-0, add if you see a missing name :think
     
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  4. Paperagent

    Paperagent Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch
     
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  5. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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  6. Terminator_X

    Terminator_X Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You could take some random dude off the street and make him 31-0-0(31ko's) if you had the right connections so Wilder doing it is meaningless.

    Just to prove a point this dude Hassan Chitsaz is 56 years old, rated 134 in the world and has a record of 24 wins with 24 knockouts against 1 loss and if he can do it anyone can.

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  7. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    OP is trying to evaluate the comp of fighters with equal records. Why do you mention record without talking about comp? You're missing the whole point.
     
    Kid Cincinnati, Mar 21, 2014
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  8. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This list exposes the BS competition, Wilder fought a stronger competition than Marciano & Foreman, so always keep that in mind :deal

    Your example of padded BS record, is the whole point of the list
     
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly :thumbsup

    I am pretty sure Clark & Steele hate this list, as it shows their "31-0"
     
    eltirado, Mar 21, 2014
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  10. Terminator_X

    Terminator_X Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your system is flawed and full of ****.

    I'd rather my fighter fight guys like Darnell Boone and Emanuel Augustus with records like 19-21 and 38-34 then the kind of unbeaten bums Wilder faced like Shannon Caudle 9-0-1, Kelvin Price 13-0 and Damon McCreary 14-0. It's not about facing guys with unbeaten records they've compiled against other bums, it about facing guys who can test your fighter and give them experience.
     
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  11. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Someone is bitter :| , its plain simple numbers, not a system!

    The numbers naturally puts Ali & Tyson on top, Clark & Steele in the bottom...Seems fair :think

    As of your old excuse, try it on someone else :yep

    Most guys with lots of losses are their to LOSE
    Most guys with ZERO Losses are their to WIN
     
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  12. Farmboxer

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    Totally illogical....................Vitali or Vlad would have easily knocked out all of Wilder's opponents, including Wilder...........Vlad knocked Wilder down with a jab, Haye kicked Wilder's arse in sparring, watch the video.

    So, you are claiming that Vlad should fight all of Wilder's past opponents? Hell, Wilder refused to fight Thompson, Chisora, Fury, Jennings, Perez, you name it........................however, Wilder did fight the very dangerous Sconiers, who knocked Wilder down!
     
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  13. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vitali failed to reach 31-0-0 because of Byrd :conf
    Wlad failed to reach 31-0-0 beacuse of Puritty :conf
     
    eltirado, Mar 21, 2014
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  14. Paperagent

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    :patsch Who on Wilder's resume comes even remotely close to matching those fighters?
     
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  15. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    FFS Puritty is a journeyman :patsch

    Wilder defeated former champion white wolf, who beat the champion who beat reigning champion Wlad himself :deal
     
    eltirado, Mar 21, 2014
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