Heavyweight ATG top 12 revised

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  1. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I doubt that I'm in the minority hear when I say that Holmes should be in the top 10. Here's mine:

    1. Joe Louis
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Rocky Marciano
    4. Larry Holmes
    5. Jack Dempsey
    6. Jack Johnson
    7. George Foreman
    8. Sonny Liston
    9. Joe Frazier
    10. Lennox Lewis
    11. Ezzard Charles
    12. Evander Holyfield
     
  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Something like this:

    1 Louis
    2 Ali
    3 Lewis
    4 Marciano
    5 Frazier
    6 Foreman
    7 Tyson
    8 Holyfield
    9 Holmes
    10 Dempsey
    11 Johnson
    12 Jeffries
     
  3. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good ratings
     
  4. Mendoza

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  5. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very well explained and I agree Tunney would be an Icon if he had defended a few more times but he finished his carrer as a Heavyweight and I dont think he would have had any trouble with Sharkey or Uscudun or Schmeling but still his fights leading up to Dempsey,the way he beat Jack and the fast feet and hands combined with power(not seen again in a while) make me rate him high. I rate Johnson and Jeffries high but I see Tunney as a better fighter than both and a more modern fighter.
     
  6. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ALL GOOD:good
     
  7. Luigi1985

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    Good list! :good
     
  8. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Here“s mine:


    1: Joe Louis
    2: Muhammad Ali
    3: Rocky Marciano
    4: James J. Jeffries
    5: Joe Frazier
    6: Lennox Lewis
    7: Jack Dempsey
    8: Jack Johnson
    9: George Foreman
    10: Larry Holmes
    11: Mike Tyson
    12: Ezzard Charles
     
  9. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1) Dempsey/Ali/Holmes
    4) Tunney/Louis
    6) Marciano/Frazier
    8) Jackson/Corbett
    10) Charles
    11) Schmeling
    12) Holyfield

    Honorable mention: Sullivan, Jeffries, Johnson, Walcott, Foreman.
     
  10. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Ali
    2. Louis
    3. Marciano
    4. Holmes
    5. Foreman
    6. Lewis
    7. Liston
    8. Johnson
    9. Dempsey
    10. Holyfield
    11. Frazier
    12. Charles


    note. If Holyfield manage to beat ibragimov he might climb one or 2 spots.
    If he manage to beat klitshko, damn.. i rank him 6th
     
  11. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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    How can you call that a good list? That was a terrible list! Marciano in the top 2 is a travesty, Frazier above Foreman is comical, and people like Max Baer over Liston is down right shameful.:-(

    Anyway, here's my list, head-to-head of course.

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Sonny Liston
    3. George Foreman
    4. Mike Tyson
    5. Joe Louis
    6. Larry Holmes
    7. Joe Frazier
    8. Jack Johnson
    9. Jack Dempsey
    10. Lennox Lewis
    11. Rocky Marciano
    12. Riddick Bowe

    :good
     
  12. Holmes' Jab

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    All variable factors taken into consideration, here'd be my 'Elite' 20:

    1. Joe Louis
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Larry Holmes
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    4. Lennox Lewis
    5. Joe Frazier
    6. Rocky Marciano
    7. Mike Tyson
    8. Evander Holyfield
    9. Sonny Liston
    10. Jack Dempsey
    11. Jack Johnson
    12. Jim Jeffries
    13. George Foreman
    14. Riddick Bowe
    15. Floyd Patterson
    16. Gene Tunney
    17. Ezzard Charles
    18. Joe Walcott
    19. Sam Langford
    20. Max Schmeling
     
  13. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Pretty decent list there, mate.

    I'd have Lewis and Marciano (the later, mostly due to 49-0) higher, though Rocky would suffer, quite a bit, on a head-to-head basis against these other greats. Louis is a lock on for Top 3 (at least) whilst I would have Foreman lower due to his rather thin resume compared to others on the list.

    All purely subjective of course. :good
     
  14. Luigi1985

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    Horrible and ridiculous list, Liston at 2nd, Tyson 4th, Foreman 3rd, Bowe 12th... :rofl
     
  15. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jack Roper instead of Johnny Paychek or Lee Ramage? And where's Leroy Caldwell or Tiger Ted Lowry? "Scrap Iron" instead of Mel Turnbow? And you have Zouski too low. Totally agree with Stallings and Tillis though. Very astute selections there.