Heavyweight boxer as the greatest P4P boxer ever?

Tockah · Jun 25, 2022

mark ant said: ↑

10:43 23:07 34:17 36:23 Chuvalo found Ali a pretty easy target, specifically to the body and Duran was a better body puncher than anyone Ali fought aside from Frazier.
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mark you have got to stop posting like 5 times to my one comment dude but yeah you make some good points I have to agree.

cuchulain · Jun 25, 2022

BitPlayerVesti said: ↑

It's definitely possible by a boxer who is naturally from a lower weight and moved up to Heavyweight, like Bob Fitzsimmons or Ezzard Charles, but I think OP was asking in the case of somoene who only fought as a heavyweight.
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I have Ali at 4 all-time, Louis at 9 and Marciano at 20.

So it's not out of the question that some future HW boxer comes to be thought of as number 1.

A case could be made for Ali as things stand.

ETM · Jun 25, 2022

Tockah said: ↑

its hard to goof on here sometimes. lol. i think ali would give duran a lot of trouble. but duran is the type of fighter that broke Ali post exile. if duran has the correct game plan, courtesy of someone like Futch. Duran would almost always win. i still think Duran would had a lot of trouble cutting off the ring against a prime ali and trouble finding his mark but of course duran has power and chin lmao. i'd expect duran to floor ali at least once.

no doubt he gives ali a beating. yes norton beat ali's ass 3 times i wont debate that. part of my posts were just jokes but i do believe Ali's slick style at such a lighter weight would be immensely difficult to overcome for Duran. the chin and power comment about duran was just a joke. I agree Frazier had nothing on Duran, aside from maybe conditioning and determination. i love duran, can't get much closer to the boxers of yesteryear than Duran himself. he took the best fights in several weight classes for decades and fought over a hundred times. i was pretty stoned when i wrote that post and it does not read how i thought it did. my comment about Futch is more resembling my feelings with the exception of the "best case scenario" at the end.
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Yea any fighter with legs like a young Ali had is gonna be hard to knockout. Probably hard to look good against. At Lightweight though Duran had the ability to close distance, speed of his own, a non stop Tazmanian Devil type of offense. Duran's defense moving in would leave Ali hitting air and looking to hold.
It might look like the Viruet fight.

mark ant · Jun 26, 2022

ETM said: ↑

Duran's defense moving in would leave Ali hitting air and looking to hold
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Fergy · Jul 1, 2022

SwarmingSlugger said: ↑

The question is what if Roberto Duran could translate his skills and body to heavyweight, would be beat Muhammad Ali?¨

Yes.
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It would be like Joe Frazier against Ali all over again.

mark ant · Jul 1, 2022

Fergy said: ↑

It would be like Joe Frazier against Ali all over again.
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Maybe their first clash, however Duran was a lot more skilled than Frazier and would have landed far more right hands.

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