Heavyweight Champ with Worst Opponents?

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  1. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who is the heavyweight champ whose opponents had the lowest combined winning percentage?
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Best guess, Max Baer.
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    vitali klitschko
     
  4. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Larry Holmes oppostion was downright disgraceful.
     
  5. Hank

    Hank Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Him, and Ali had some bad ones--Richard Dunn, Coopman, Evengelista, Spinks, and Wepner.
     
  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    no, Holmes fought some v good fighters while champ
     
  7. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You didnt say championship opponents so i'm assuming all fights. So i go Braddock with Walcott as my backup.
     
  8. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My guess is someone like Floyd Patterson. Very protected champ.
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Patterson, Dempsey (while title holders). Both very shrewdly managed.
     
  10. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    I agree to an extent, more so with Dempsey (who was without doubt the more unactive Champ).

    I definitely believe that Patterson was the more 'willing' of the two regarding wanting to fight the other top men. It was more a case of D'Amatos "lowrisk policy" having the final say which hamstrung Patterson in his early career rather than Patterson himself being the one who actively did all the avoiding. He eventually overruled D'Amato's decision making and in his mid-late career consistently fought a better class of opponent. (''The title is not worth anything if the best fighters can't have a shot at it" ''Liston deserves a shot.")


    Some of Foremans pre-title years were permeated by it's fair share of tomato can type opponents.
     
  11. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    neither Dempsey or Patterson had that bad comp when champ. When Patterson was champ, he gave shots to Jahannson, and Dempsey had Miske, Gibbons, and Brennan who were all legit contenders. Fripo was crude but his power and toughness alone made him a tough contender and while Carpeinter was 15lbs lighter, he was nonetheless worthy of a title shot.

    Funny but no one's mentioned Jack Johnson here
     
  12. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    funny but the question is lowest winning percentage. I bet none of the guys who ever challenged Dempsey and fought him for the title had a lower percentage of 50 percent when they were given title shots. Unlike many bums who recieved title shots later on
     
  13. Sonny's jab

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    No way of knowing the combined winning % of most the champs' opponents.
    Records are incomplete.
    We almost certainly haven't got records of all Jack Dempsey or Jeresy Joe Walcott fights, let alone complete records of their opponents !
     
  14. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So we're talking just winning percentages, the pure numbers, not the more debatable level of quality of opponents? Since you can have a 20-0 guy that hasn't really fought anyone of note, compared to a 30-4 guy that could be much more experienced at a top level and more dangerous because of it...
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Intersting question.