Heavyweight division is in shambles

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As the Klitschko era finally ends, we are left with just about nothing. We are left with belt holding prospects who need time. We are left with people who don't take the sport seriously, and are in and out of retirement while in their prime.

    Fury-Klitschko II is tied up in the courts
    Wilder-Povetkin isn't happening

    Povetkin tested positive for something, but Wilder seems more than happy to keep fighting bums. His resume is absolute trash and I can only see him making it worse in the coming years.

    Joshua was the great hope, but I just don't see it. He doesn't pass the eye test for me. In the UK they're working hard to turn him into this monstrous cash cow ATG, but it's just not all there for me. He often looks slow, stiff, and I have serious doubts about his ring IQ. Can he even take a shot? Can he get up from a knockdown?

    Haye vs. Briggs being talked about as a decent fight shows how sad the division is. Five years ago these two were BOTH retired clowns. Now that the throne is more or less vacant there's limelight to be had. Very sad.

    The olympic crop is terribly unimpressive. The super heavy silver medalist was badly outclassed by a much smaller Usyk in WSB, and the gold medalist doesn't look like a world beater. Dychko is awful.

    The only shining gem in this otherwise sad division is King Kong - Luis Ortiz. He boxes beautifully and has great power in both hands. He is the uncrowned king of the division but has all the classic Cuban management problems to go with being avoided.

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    Slyk, Aug 23, 2016
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  2. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    The elite of the cruiserweight could probably defeat 98 percent of the heavy weight roster.... It is like that in many sports to be honest, the more talented division is and will always be cruiserweight among the heavies.
     
    mirkofilipovic, Aug 23, 2016
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  3. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is a shambles but it is interesting if we can get the fights happening who knows what will happen.we needed some chaos after the boredom of the the last few years.
     
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  4. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Remember people posted 1 year ago "Heavyweight division is getting super awsome!!! Excitement". Here's your excitement: belt holders hogging belts and milking titles. Wilder fighting nobodies. PED cases with Povetkin and Fury. Lawsuits with Klitschko and Fury. The division is not giving us any good fights anytime soon.
     
    madballster, Aug 23, 2016
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  5. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was some potential but when the fights that 1,2,3,4 had lined up with each other fell through it became an absolute joke.
     
    Slyk, Aug 23, 2016
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  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Worst thing that happened was Vitali retiring. He should have kept going because Wilder is a ***ing joke.
     
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  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    That was predictable wasn't it. None of these guys (Wilder, Fury, Povetkin) are managed in a professional manner. Povetkin's handler has no experience. Fury's family is a bunch of lunatics; Tyson needs to be institutionalized. Wilder is being milked and over-protected.

    AJ actually seems like a one-eyed man among a bunch of blind.
     
    madballster, Aug 23, 2016
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  8. PolishNavy

    PolishNavy Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Izu Ugonoh will save this division.
     
    PolishNavy, Aug 23, 2016
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  9. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When Wlad and Povetkin retire it will be abysmal for a few years. Fury isn't disciplined enough to have a long peak career and Wilder is a fraud. It's actually the perfect time for a really good cruiser to move up (maybe Usyk?) and dare to be great take the division by the horns and really breathe life into it.
    Parker still impresses me though and AJ can punch but seems soooo stiff like cardboard
     
    The Long Count, Aug 23, 2016
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  10. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I honestly thought all the Usyk unifying cruiser then moving up to HW greatness was a bunch of nonsense from overzealous fans. But now, having seen him handle some big guys in WSB, and the way things are going...

    If Ortiz is out of the picture, Fury self destructs, Povetkin retires, Joshua stays looking so-so...why not?
     
    Slyk, Aug 23, 2016
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  11. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    Fury is turning into another Haye ... it's a pity.
     
    kostya by ko, Aug 23, 2016
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  12. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The good fights were supposed to flow after Fury beat Klitschko but in the wake of their on-off rematch and the Wilder-Povetkin saga a promising year has turned into a dud.

    Trying to get traction in a division, for whatever reason, is boxing's biggest issue.
     
    Ted Spoon, Aug 24, 2016
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  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    This.

    People got all pumped in a moment of blinded hope.

    I think that moment has passed for even the most die hard Heavyweight division hypers.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Aug 24, 2016
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  14. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still more fun than Vlad.
     
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  15. TheFuriusWon

    TheFuriusWon Member Full Member

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    2016 was supposed to be the year of:

    Fury-vlad rematch
    Wilder-Povetkin
    Joshua-Parker
    Ortiz-A big name

    Chances of any one of these happening this year is looking incredibly slim.
     
    TheFuriusWon, Aug 25, 2016
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