Heavyweight King

Yep. I forgot about that. :good

 

Q49 - Thanks for the detailed reply concerning the Lowry-Marciano fight.

 

C'mon man, let it rip! You know you want to. If you get lucky you may get an opportunity to give Tucker a go as well. :tong

 

Ok. Point taken. But should Ali have rematched Foreman?

 

To be honest with you I think that Louis's losses to Charles and Marciano compare to Ali's losses to Holmes and Spinks.

 

Liston was not in the top ten when the Rock retire, Liston would be about 4 years after the Rock retire.

Also Rocky would be hitting 37 if Rocky fought Sonny in 59 about.

I would not add Liston to the list of fighters Rocky duck or in a era sense. Liston was the Patterson era.

 

Joe Louis is the greatest heavyweight ever.

 

The point is that if he'd beaten them, his overal resume would've been better.

 

Not really. Louis was a dangerous # 1 heavyweight contender easily beating 8 men who were either in the Ring Magazine rankings/or near it. Only Charles, Marciano, Walcott and possibly Henry were capable of defeating Louis in 1950-1951.

I could easily name 10 heavyweights 1979-1981 in the world that would have beaten Muhammad Ali. Muhammad was no longer capapble of defeating top 10 opponents like Louis was.

 

Should he have rematched Liston?

 

To me Ali was much more dominant in the fight with Foreman then what is generally accepted. People act like Ali did throw only one punch after taking everything Foreman did throw at him. But to me Ali did land the better punches that did hurt Foreman already before the knock down.

 

He was pretty much dominant vs Liston also. Should he have rematched him? And in your orignal post you said he 'rematched' everyone, who did you mean? He was obviously going to rematch Frazier, Norton and spinks- they'd all beaten him. Who else? Bugner, Patterson, Chuvalo- who were you referring to?

 

Frazier, Norton, Spinks. Who else. Those other guys were not worth it.

 

Hey, that was good of him, allowing Spinks a rematch. What a guy.

 

All I wanted to say is Ali did get the better of anyone he has fought. And he did fight a lot of good guys. A lot of legends also.

AND he was never knocked out.