Heavyweight landscape Prediction...

peter5 · Jul 14, 2007

I agree, i thought haye would just go for the heavies, hes probably setting himself up for a fall facing mormeck if he struggles so much to get down to the cruiser weight, and i know what you mean about him being in between weights, he would probably only go as high as 16stone i think, cant remember what he was for his debut, think it was 15 and a half or so, not sure. but it does leave him light compared to some others, although i think people will struggle with his agility and speed, and if he utilises them both, he will probably win a portion of the belt, although that doesnt mean much these days!

dragosuhail · Jul 14, 2007

:think hmmm, haha yeah i know when you bring ATG into any conversation it's treading dangerous ground

it's just a personal observation, and while yes his opponents might not be the ali's, foremans etc etc. just watching the shots he throws and how he does them combined with his size etc makes me think it's up there.

i mean what impresses me power wise is quite often his shots aren't "straining" shots. what i mean is he doesn't (most of the time) put so much into it that he nearly falls over or takes too much risks. it's kinda like amatuer boxing style of throwing a punch yet with the velocity and energy generated of a power shot thrown by a guy who lunges into it their shots.

his jab probably epitomizes what im thinking. he leaves it half extended, then moves it forward a short distance really fast and hard. i mean some of the slow mos look like the face is being hit by a right hand and not a left jab. let alone a jab which is semi extended!

anyways i enjoy the interesting (and non flamewar) discussion on all this but im buggered. it's late where im at (the land Down Under) so i gotta go. :thumbsup

peter5 · Jul 14, 2007

nice one mate, always up for discussion, get bored of the slaggin off, peace!

barneyrub · Jul 14, 2007

dragosuhail said:

okay folks here's my prediction for what the heavyweight landscape will look like by 2010. seriously i thought about it and it doesn't sound that crazy after you give it consideration. here goes.

wladimir and vitali's dream of holding two belts each is still possible:

wladimir fights sanders (revenge) or holy/rahman (big names) by end of 2007.

sultan/ruslan unify end of 2007. for arguments sake say winner is sultan.

in early/mid 2008 vitali beats the wbc champ no matter who he is (peter, oleg, mccall)

now, when vitali gets the wbc belt, sultan will get his mandatory out of the way quickly (i am becoming a believer of Warrior Promotions) which will be a limited thompson or damaged krasniqi.

meanwhile wladimir will have already finished negotiating with sultan's team for a 3 belt unification. why will this happen? 1. warrior promotions are the real deal and aren't afraid of their fighter losing AND 2. wladimir knows that if he doesn't unify he will have to retred old ground in fighting his mandatory who will be none other than BYRD! OR BROCK!!! can we all say BORING?

anyway, wladimir will unify with sultan knowing he will be stripped of his ibf belt. however in turn he gains the wba/wbo belts as compenstation.

bryd and brock fight for the vacated belt with bryd being just a little too slick for poor brock.

okay, vitali will then fight his mandatory by end of 2008 and so will bryd. (i think you can see where this is heading).

2009. wladimir defends his wba/wbo belts. while the hype turns to big bro vitali and his revenge match against the the returning champ chris byrd! vitali and byrd will once again face off and vitali's shoulder wont be an issue this time since he knows how to avoid byrds pulling tricks to throw opponents shoulders out. (wladimir used those tricks on bryd in their rematch. watch how he bashes bryds lead hand down hard.)

by end of 2009 vitali will have wbc/ibf and wladimir will have wba/wbo.

vitali will only make one (maybe two) defenses of his belts then retire due to Old Fart status. wladimir will hang around for a few years more and might try to annex the ibf/wbc belts from who ever claims them. possibly a povetkin or such. he will win, netting 3 belts in 2010 then retire on top :hey

if this thread is correct. i will be considered a genie-ass! if not... well err... i'll just die from :bbb

what cha all think?
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wlad will have retired by 2010, he is too intelligent to box on for long, plus no doubt soon his body will fall apart like his brothers. Vitali is only back just now to keep sam peter from his brother as he probably sees him as the only danger to wlad.

RDJ · Jul 14, 2007

Good grief what a load of ****.

El Bombasto · Jul 14, 2007

FourtyOunce said:

2010, Peter Has All The Belts!
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:rofl

brooklyn1550 · Jul 14, 2007

2010? Anything could happen by then

Feiti · Jul 14, 2007

1) Vitali won´t be around that long
2) Povetkin and maybe Solis will become forces in this time

Erebus · Jul 14, 2007

dragosuhail said:

okay folks here's my prediction for what the heavyweight landscape will look like by 2010. seriously i thought about it and it doesn't sound that crazy after you give it consideration. here goes.

wladimir and vitali's dream of holding two belts each is still possible:

wladimir fights sanders (revenge) or holy/rahman (big names) by end of 2007.

sultan/ruslan unify end of 2007. for arguments sake say winner is sultan.

in early/mid 2008 vitali beats the wbc champ no matter who he is (peter, oleg, mccall)

now, when vitali gets the wbc belt, sultan will get his mandatory out of the way quickly (i am becoming a believer of Warrior Promotions) which will be a limited thompson or damaged krasniqi.

meanwhile wladimir will have already finished negotiating with sultan's team for a 3 belt unification. why will this happen? 1. warrior promotions are the real deal and aren't afraid of their fighter losing AND 2. wladimir knows that if he doesn't unify he will have to retred old ground in fighting his mandatory who will be none other than BYRD! OR BROCK!!! can we all say BORING?

anyway, wladimir will unify with sultan knowing he will be stripped of his ibf belt. however in turn he gains the wba/wbo belts as compenstation.

bryd and brock fight for the vacated belt with bryd being just a little too slick for poor brock.

okay, vitali will then fight his mandatory by end of 2008 and so will bryd. (i think you can see where this is heading).

2009. wladimir defends his wba/wbo belts. while the hype turns to big bro vitali and his revenge match against the the returning champ chris byrd! vitali and byrd will once again face off and vitali's shoulder wont be an issue this time since he knows how to avoid byrds pulling tricks to throw opponents shoulders out. (wladimir used those tricks on bryd in their rematch. watch how he bashes bryds lead hand down hard.)

by end of 2009 vitali will have wbc/ibf and wladimir will have wba/wbo.

vitali will only make one (maybe two) defenses of his belts then retire due to Old Fart status. wladimir will hang around for a few years more and might try to annex the ibf/wbc belts from who ever claims them. possibly a povetkin or such. he will win, netting 3 belts in 2010 then retire on top :hey

if this thread is correct. i will be considered a genie-ass! if not... well err... i'll just die from :bbb

what cha all think?
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I think you should put your crack pipe in the Trash can......:yikes :hi:

macp · Jul 14, 2007

what about Golota?

Rock0052 · Jul 14, 2007

peter5 said:

im not sure about the ATG in the pwer department, hes not exactly fighting elite fighters now is he? dont tell me he is up there with foreman and louis and liston et al? at the end of the its all conjecture, we wont know till the time comes and we see hows its panning out, but i will be the first to let you know if its not like you see it!!!!
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I think Wlad certainly has ATG power. He's taken guys out in one punch, and also showed that his jab is flat out devastating. And, while his competition will never be looked at the way the fighters you mentioned are, he's stopped guys with solid chins.

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