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This. Takam is a good win for Chisora and the way he finished him shows he still has something left and isn't completly shot to pieces which i thought after the Kabayel fight tbh.

But that's it.

Takam was winning almost every round and hammering and pressuring Chisora all night long till he got caught by a big right overhand, which happens in the HWD especially if you have a weak defense like Takam on that day.

Whyte knocked down Parker.
AJ couldn't knock down Parker.

Is Whyte better than AJ?

That's his logic. OMFG.

 

There's a reason why "A did this to B but A couldn't do it to C" arguments don't work in boxing....and this is it.

 

I agree, Takam was battering him, Ali got battered by George foreman ... so what?

He soaked it all up like Ali and knocked Takam out. It was a SPECTACULAR fight.

And then you go and say Knownacki v Martin was good....

In what parallel universe would that fight be deemed good? Certainly not our one.

 

Please don't use the word logic before I embarrass you on the internet.

Parker fought a different fight against whyte then he did with Joshua. You don't really need to be a fighter or a fan to even notice that.

Strategy and tactics are two things used heavily in the world of sports. Parker traded more with Whyte to use his speed advantage. Parker move around more with AJ to avoid the reach disadvantage and capitalise on the flatter footed opponent.

So don't apply the same analysis to two completely different situation, there's your logic.

But hey.. I am just a fan, don't take my word for it. Professional fighters say the same thing. Haye said he won't bother looking at the footage from the first Bellew fight because the same Bellew won't show up on the second fight.

You gonna tell me that your boxing IQ is better than David Haye? Great, can I come join your boxing gym please?

You are reaching so far in saying Takam had bad defence on that day. That's BULL****.

But if you wan't to play that game, Chisora didn't turn up in the Kabayel fight at Monaco. How about that.

And now Kabayel is getting high ranks and praise on this forum for beating Chisora.

There is a serious lack of logic among you people. Not to mention hypocrisy.

 

that's a myth associated with that fight, most actually had Ali well up in that fight, as can be seen here https://eyeonthering.com/boxing/rumble-jungle-george-foreman-vs-muhammad-ali

yes, takam/chisora was a great fight, but it doesn't mean Kownacki/Martin wasn't a good fight. Seeing as you cited people on this board as your reference for the fight not being good, i suggest you read the RBR, here are just a few comments.

 

Yeah except.. my post wasn't about "A did this to B but A couldn't do it to C"

But in general, I agree with you.

My post was, within the same of 1 year, three fighters fought each other .. AJ V Takam and Chisora v Takam....

And each fighter had ample chances to throw shots and land, and only one person got the TKO.

You cannot spin that any other way, because your punching output and ability is not going to change drastically in one year as a seasoned professional.

Styles and performance will change in a fight.. but the power and angles of your punches will land all the same over the span of 9+ rounds.

AJ Landed and did not get a TKO
Chisora landed and did get TKO

You can't overlook that result.

 

There's all sorts of variables attached to it though. Does the fact Takam was having a lot more success and throwing a lot more punches against Chisora mean it gave Chisora a better opportunity to KO Takam, than AJ had? that's why i try to stay away from those sort of debates.

 

Collate all those comments your referenced and then put it in the bin labelled "Casuals" because it is apparent in every tone of those posts.

Meanwhile, the most active and elite member of this forum was already vocal on the quality of that matchup and the performance, and was given a heads up from his circle of friends.

I think I'll go with the latter demographic on this one. Cheers.

And no, Ali took serious damage, and probably accelerate or caused his Parkinsons. The eyes do not lie!

 

You can not embarass me as you embarrassed and exposed yourself already.

And Takam fought a different fight against Chisora than he did with Joshua. You don't really need to be a fighter or a fan to even notice that.

Strategy and tactics are two things used heavily in the world of sports. Takam traded more with Chisora as he did with Joshua. Takam moved around more with AJ to avoid the reach disadvantage and the power from AJ.

So don't apply the same analysis to two completly different situation.

You are really awkward. You DID the exact same thing comparing Takam vs Chisora with Takam vs Joshua but saying i compare two different situation? AND you mentioned the word hypocrisy. LMAO. You exposed yourself BADLY here.

LOL rewatch the fight you clown and tell me Takam was focusing on his defense, he stood in front of Chisora and was throwing throwing throwing. You are completly NUTS.

 

Yeah it can get complicated, but it can also be boiled down to the fact that they both had chances to land.. and did land.

AJ has knocked out most of his opponents with far less output. Outside of Parker, no one took his attacks past round 7/8.

 

I did watch the fight, I think you watched it with your biased prejudiced 1D glasses on. Maybe take them off and watch it again yourself.

Everyone is entitle to their own opinion, your opinion is just garbage.

You are a weak fight fan to rate Knownacki so high, I hope you don't have his poster on your wall.

Anyways I put my money where my mouth is, if Chisora v Knownacki happens I'll be happy to collect money off of you.

 

consensus was it was entertaining fight, not the most skilled by any stretch but definitely entertaining. Chisora/Takam wasn't the most skilled fight either, but again, still very entertaining.

This person you're speaking of has friends from the future? If he got a "heads up", that makes it sound like someone told him it wasn't a good fight and he didn't watch it.

Took damage, yes, battered in the way Chisora was, no.

 

"Entertaining" Yeah I guess it's all very subjective, personally I thought the Chisora v Takam fight was way more enteraining, as with Whyte v Chisora.

And we can agree to disagree on the consensus as not everyone commented.. I saw it as a bum fight, and still do. Martin was pathetic.

After the fight happened, he was pretty much informed not to watch it as it was that bad...

So on one side you have one of the most powerful devastating punchers of all time, and then you have takam. Ali played the rope-a-dope and took damage and got battered, only when Foreman was out of energy completely did Ali capitalise.

I am not knocking his technique, just the fact that battered is the more appropriate term because in a boxing fight everyone takes damage mate.

You can't get in the water and not get wet.

 

i think we may have got lost in translation, so to speak, about Kownacki/Martin. i didn't mean it was a well skilled fight, just most who watched it, found it entertaining to watch, a "rock'em sock'em robots" type fight. I also didn't mean i thought it was better than Chisora/Takam, i just didn't feel it was "pathetic", although admittedly i may have mistaken what you actually meant by that.

fair enough, i get what you're saying, i just think they do differ. and i'm definitely not getting into a your cat vs. me debate lol

 

loool in all fairness I deleted the cat comment as that was just childish of me and not the best analogy I have come up with.

Thank you for understanding.