Heavyweight sucks

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  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Actually looks that a lot of the same fighters who had fought in called by western posters as bad era Klit era still are fighting division's top 10 boxers and this doesn't shows that in this so called better era talent pool allowed to fight top guys had changed much.
    More than this, sometimes modern top lads performs vs them not at all such impressive like this did these " overrated " and " bad era " Vitali and Wlad.
     
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  2. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk is a cruiserweight with an unproven chin. Why is it absurd to think a boxer puncher as big and strong AJ stops him. Regardless I’m sure AJ is good enough to keep him at bay with a jab and right hand, make Usyk way too hesitant to engage and coast to a points win as well even if the stoppage doesn’t come. Usyk isn’t a good heavyweight.

    Edit: Would you also be able to fill me in and tell me why miniq was banned?
     
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  3. Safin

    Safin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk is highly skilled and moves better than anyone in the division by some distance. You're absolutely obsessed with physical stature. You're totally ignoring the fact that since the beginning of time, heavyweights who have been giving away 20lbs and 3 inches have been able to win bouts. :risas3:

    Andy Rice Pudding Jr would be able to make light heavyweight if he were to achieve Dmitry Bivol levels of conditioning. He's not over 5'11'' and has a tiny rich. Usyk is quite clearly a bigger man.

    You don't want Usyk to be a good heavyweight. You say that as if the division is stacked. Usyk gives both Joshua and Fury all they can handle.

    Not a clue who that is.
     
  4. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Strange lie.
     
  5. dinovelvet

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    Bivol wouldn't be able to train if he weighted 280lbs because his frame is too small. Andy spent the last year training and eating like Canelo and he still couldn't get bellow 250lbs.
    Ruiz is naturally a very big man.
     
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  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk is totally past it. The guy is on decline from some time already. He doesnt have any chance againat Joshua. His speed, reflexes and footwork are shot.
     
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  7. Safin

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    Great joke.

    Ruiz is 256lbs and still looks like a fat slob, carrying excessive amounts of body fat and is full of water. If you think that is a "very big man", then you must be tiny. I can't think of any other way of putting it.

    If Andy Ruiz were to drop all of that flab and get in lean sub 8% body fat, there is no way on this earth that he would weigh in excess over 200lbs.
     
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    What part of he spent the last year training like Canelo did you not understand? He doesn't have the genetics to achieve 8% body fat.

    Im not tiny but I know a guy just like Andy body wise. No matter how hard he trains he can't get bellow a certain weight.

    There's lot of weight on Andy he was born with. He has a lot of Excess skin but underneath he is very solid. . You thinking he can make 175 shows what you know. You know nothing.
     
  9. Surrix

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    He does have more chances vs A.J than Whyte or Ruiz Jr.

    He isn't shot or with impaired reflexes.
    He is slower now and less agile, this yeah. I'm not sure how he today might deal with top 3 CW dudes like Makabu, Dorticos and the same and now even old Briedis.
    If A.J will make mistake, he might KO him.
    Ofc on cards A.J always will win and Fury too needs to stop him in distance to get win. No other chances there.
     
  10. Safin

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    I understand science, bud, not anecdotal nonsense like "he spent the last year training like Alvarez" and "he doesn't have the genetics to achieve sub 8% body fat". That's pub talk.

    You sound highly uneducated, seriously.
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    You believe the man can make 175. You buried yourself with that highly uneducated and simply moronic take.
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    You understand nothing. You believe a man who fought weighing 280lbs can make the 175 limit at light heavy. You are a fool.
     
  13. SheenLantern

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    It's very sad to see the division decline in the way that it has over the past few decades.
     
  14. Safin

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    It's hilarious that you think that Andy Rice Pudding Jr breaks the boundaries of documented human physiology. Much bigger and heavier men have gone from Rugby and Wrestling to running ultramarathons weighing sub 160lbs.

    Pick up a book, bud, instead of the fried chicken and cows milkshake.
     
  15. Surrix

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    Yeah.
    Some 260lbs on frame like Lewis does have does mean that you are not fat at all, really normal condition for this size frame.
    For Bivol frame even 230 lbs will be a killer weight.
     
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