Heavyweight top ten looking something like this now?

Wach might be able to beat Glazkov, no doubt Glazkov is the worst of the top 10....But Perez should be ahead of both guys.

And I have a hard time believing that Wach would be very competitive against Perez

 

Wach's best win is Tye Fields...or I guess Hammer in Hammer's 9th fight.

Wach does not have the resume

 

Why not?
I am not a huge believer in Fury but he has a decent resume for a young guy. I think Cunningham, Chisora 2x, Johnson, and now coming up Hammer is better than Wilder's Stiverne resume.

 

Scott is about as good as Cunningham though.

 

That's fair. Debatable I like Cunningham but it's fair. I should of included Scott for Wilder.

 

Wilder now has a better win than Fury. Cunningham is not a top 10 Heavyweight. Neither is Takam. Your list is awful.

 

Yeah, gotta count it unless the investigators determine it was a dive. Personally, I think he got caught cold.

 

Champ Wlad
1. Povetkin
2. Haye
3. Wilder
4. Pulev
5. Jennings
6. Stiverne
7. Fury
8. Chisora
9. Wach
10. Szpilka

 

Strongly disagree.

Cunningham is a blown-up cruiser, and was up on the cards (two of the official judges' and nearly every fan's or journalist's) and had to put up with some very wonky officiating, between the long count in the 2nd (Fury was up on Bambi legs around 8-9 seconds after his back hit the canvas, didn't turn and face Eddie Cotton to present his fists until twelve seconds had passed) and the blatant disregard of Fury's rabbit punches, which in accumulation scored him the victory over the much smaller man.

So that's only a marginally good win at heavyweight (though it has, on paper, aged well, given Cunnnigham's decent streak ever since) when it happened, as Cunningham was technically 1-1 at the weight even though he did get robbed in the loss in the Adamek rematch - and the W over Gavern meant nothing - and, to boot, a tainted win.

Chisora he already beat in 2011. Why does beating him in 2014 - when Chisora has been thrice beaten in the intervening time, by pretty much every significant opponent faced - suddenly vault him up into a #2 spot at HW? Did beating him the first time when Chisora was undefeated make Fury #2 back in 2011? No, of course it didn't. So why does beating someone you've already defeated once - and Chisora remains Fury's best win(s) over a true heavyweight, by the way - suddenly elevate him that much? Over the likes of Pulev? Seriously?

As for Johnson, that lazy SOB also lost wide to Christian Hammer, Manuel Charr, and Fury's own twice-beaten rival Dereck Chisora after Fury outpointed him. Earlier that same year he ****ed the bed in Prizefighter against Tor Hamer. After his challenge of Vitali, there is nothing relevant or world class about Kingpin. And he's Fury's third best win, and the 2nd best win (after Scott) on the record of Chisora, Fury's actual best win x2.

 

Chisora II
Cunningham
Chisora I
Johnson

Those four wins aside, Fury's resume is trash. Just pure filler all the way down.

As for Wilder:

Stiverne (happened to be WBC champ when they fought, can't sneeze at that, even if he was a weak titlist)
Scott
Liahkovich

Same applies here, throw out those and Wilder's resume is trash.

So, okay, Fury has four remotely worth discussing wins to Wilder's three - but the fact that one for Wilder is over a reigning world titlist (whatever you may feel about the state of the fractured ABC org situation) has to be respected and elevated above Fury's best achievement, twice beating Euro-level beast and world level trier-but-failure Chisora.


The rest pretty much cancel out (Scott & shot Liakhovich vs. blown-up Cunningham and increasingly lazy and apathetic Johnson - and really I think I'm being generous to Fury calling that particular 2-on-2 a wash, because Scott is head and shoulders the best win of the four, especially given the manner...unless you're going to delve into all the "dive" talk...)

 

you are a snot nosed kid who doesn't know anything and I have been watching Boxing longer than you have been alive. I don't have any problem with 'British' fighters Fury's resume is awful. Furthermore I don't care what fight news has someone ranked.

How someone that pretends to watch Boxing can come up with a list as awful as yours is beyond me. Yes the Division is weak but you have Cunningham as a ranked fighter (no doubt to push your strange fetish/agenda for Fury) which is laughable. I am not the only one to point this out to you. So, I guess the others are 'biased' and don't know anything either? :rofl

 

...and Fury vs. Wilder is at least same ballpark, as far as I'm concerned, with their resumes. (even though beating the WBC champ ought to be the clincher there, aas it beats a pair over Chisora hands down)

Fury vs. Povetkin or even Pulev? We're not even talking same ballpark. Not even the same league.

Jennings has a clearly better resume.