Heavyweight Top Ten

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it is close to ludicrous. You for sure can't be objective and do it, Everything has to be interpreted to suit that ranking. Ali looking him look foolish? Well, he was past his prime despite it only being 7 months after he wiped out Patterson a second time. Because you know, he was really 40, not 32. How do we know that? We just know know, or somebody somewhere kind of said it.

    He only beat three top 5 fighters? Oh, he would have beaten a lot more if he didn't start out boxing when into his 30's, don't you know.

    All that call for a lot of speculation. Pretty baseless speculation at that. Frazier, Ali, Louis, Lewis, Tyson, Wlad, Foreman, Dempsey and Johnson also have crushing victories over top guys, but in most or all of those cases they have a deeper resume behind it. And while Marciano, Holyfield and Holmes perhaps wasn't that dominant in fights against champions and/or top ranked opponents, they were more consistent. So that's twelve guys. I just can't see how Liston is going get a pass over eight of them. In fact, I'd think it somewhat generous to have him in the top 10.
     
  2. mcvey

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    It's personal opinion .Liston makes my top ten without any trouble. I think H2H he is a monster.
    One of the ," regular sized heavies", I think holds his own with the behemoths that have followed.

    I quite understand why some won't put him in their ten though.
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Coming from a guy who has Patterson in his top 10 :lol:
     
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  4. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. DEMPSEY
    2. Louis
    3. Johnson
    4. MARCIANO
    5. FRAZIER
    6. Clay
    7/8 Liston/Holmes or vis versa
    9. Jeffries
    10. Tunney
     
  5. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree ENTIRELY!! Great post and about time someone popped that fraudulent balloon.
     
  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What makes you think he was prime for any of the Patterson fights?
     
  7. Seamus

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    Dempsey simply can not be ranked above Tyson by any measure excepting ancientness and whiteness.
     
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  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The number 1 debate at one point was who was the goat. Dempsey or Louis? Do you think their's any debate between Tyson and Louis?
     
  9. Seamus

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    That point was before Tyson ever stepped inside a ring.
     
  10. Rumsfeld

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    On a related note.

     
  11. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Top 10, all things considered

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Mike Tyson
    4. George Foreman
    5. Jack Dempsey
    6. Rocky Marciano
    7. Larry Holmes
    8. Joe Frazier
    9. Sonny Liston
    10. Lennox Lewis

    H2H

    1. Mike Tyson
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. George Foreman
    4. Sonny Liston
    5. Larry Holmes

    Don't feel the need to rank the rest after 5 ...

    Mike Tyson from 1987-1988 was a nigh invincible lion in the boxing ring. H2H, the GOAT. I don't favor any boxer over him during that time frame. Only a few boxers might have a chance, due to stylistic advantages.
     
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  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doesn't matter. Tyson was NEVER considered the GOAT or ranked above Louis at any time in his career. Dempsey was.
     
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  13. Seamus

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    By which old honkey?

    What are Dempsey's five best opponents he beat?
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The entire boxing world!
     
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  15. Seamus

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    Dempsey's greatest victory was over a part time boxer with zero amateur experience, who started in his late 20's, had fought 10 listless rounds in the previous 4 years and was 37 years old. Next up is a chinny hype job who went on to be KO'd 10 times in his career. Next up is a guy who lost his title eliminator match to a middleweight, and even tho he had no wins of note at heavyweigh on his ledger got a title shot. Should I go on? And you want to tell me that is the basis for a top 5 heavyweight of all time.