Heavyweight Tournament with a Twist: First Round (Jack Johnson/Primo Carnera)

LPR rules, this is no question. Primo brings nothing to the table to dent Johnson. In fact, Johnson should be one of the dark horses for this title, provided that the voters dont forget the LPR rules apply.

 

I agree, Johnson here would be able to use even more craftiness to maul the **** out of Carnera than regular, Johnson big time

 

I think Johnson would be better suitedx to the ruleset.

 

Johnson's skill level alone puts him well up on Carnera here.

 

Johnson is a much, much better boxer by LPR standards than Carnera. Still, I wonder if that matters as much as others believe. Unlike most giants, Carnera had decent-ish boxing skills himself. He also outweighed Johnson by 60 pounds, and could wrestle.

Johnson wrestled a bit himself, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he counterpunches the Alp to bits.

Still, I wouldn't bet against Primo. Johnson wasn't very mobile, so Primo might grab him, throw him, and fall on him until Johnson can't stand up any more.

 

London rules in general benefit the bigger and stronger fighter.

 

Johnson, remember in unforgivable blackness when they were talking about those black fighter's pits?

egghhh.

edit: HMMM I WONDER WHO VOTED AGAINST JOHNSON

 

Johnson, all the way! It's a matter of win Johnson ko's him.

 

Generally true, but remember that middleweights and welterweights sometimes held the title against bigger, stronger challengers.

 

Who were generally less than 200 pounds themselves. If you are going to allow wrestling like tactics, it negates skills punchers.

 

Yeah, but the weight differences were still pretty significant. Sayers, for instance, was a 5'8" welterweight when he grabbed the heavyweight championship of England from a bunch of lightheavyweights, and he later fought the 6'2", 200 lb. American champion to a draw.

Relatively speaking, Carnera doesn't outweigh Johnson quite as much.

I'd also disagree that wrestling tactics negate good punching entirely, since a lot of slicksters held the title. You just need to adapt your skillset.

 

Sullivan V Mitchell?

 

Carnera could wrestle and was much bigger and definitely more powerful then Johnson.
I think he will have big chances against Johnson under this ruleset

 

Some successful, smaller LPR fighters.
Charlie Mitchell
Larry Foley
Jem Smith
Jem Mace
Mike Donovan
Tom Sayers