Heavyweight tournament

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  1. SeanK

    SeanK Member Full Member

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    Hello, here’s a typical tournament for anyone interested.

    Bracket 1:

    Ali vs Tyson

    Fury vs Louis

    Bracket 2:

    Holmes vs Marciano

    Liston vs Lewis

    Bracket 3

    Johnson vs Frazier

    Wilder vs Bowe

    Bracket 4

    Holyfield vs Foreman

    Dempsey vs Patterson


    Victors from bracket 1 faces 2, 3 faces 4

    15 round fights, every fighter at their peak.
     
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  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson beats Ali
    Louis beats Fury
    Holmes beats Marciano
    Liston beats Lewis
    Frazier beats Johnson
    Bowe beats Wilder
    Holyfield beats Foreman
    Dempsey beats Patterson

    round 2
    Louis stops Tyson in 11
    Holmes UD over Liston
    Frazier stops Bowe in 11
    Holyfield stops Dempsey in 8

    Round 3
    Louis UD over Holmes
    Frazier SD over Holyfield

    Round 4
    Frazier beats Louis
     
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  3. SeanK

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    Very interesting run down. Personally I favour Ali over Tyson, so ours would look quite different.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    First Round

    67 Ali vs 88 Tyson, Ali TKO11
    38 Louis vs 15 Fury, Louis TKO8
    80 Holmes vs 52 Marciano, Holmes TKO14, cuts.
    57 Liston vs 97 Lewis, Liston KO8
    71 Frazier vs 10 Johnson, Frazier TKO12
    92 Bowe vs 18 Wilder, Bowe KO4
    73 Foreman vs 92 Holyfield, Foreman TKO4
    18 Dempsey vs 57 Patterson, Dempsey KO3

    Quarter Final

    67 Ali vs 18 Dempsey
    Ali UD15
    73 Foreman vs 38 Louis
    Foreman KO2
    80 Holmes vs 92 Bowe
    Holmes UD15
    57 Liston vs 71 Frazier
    Liston TKO4

    Semi Final

    67 Ali vs 57 Liston
    Ali UD15
    73 Foreman vs 80 Holmes
    Foreman TKO3 (complete 50-50 imo)

    Final

    73 Foreman vs 67 Ali
    Ali UD15

    Ali wins imo, although I'd have him losing to Wlad, Lewis and Frazier.
    Slightly wounded that Lewis lost at the first hurdle.
     
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  5. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah I generally pick Ali over Tyson but I give Tyson a better chance than most on this forum. Since I figured 99% of people would pick Ali I decided to go Tyson Lol...but it does not matter to me as Louis would best Tyson or Ali so to me it was a mere formality.
     
  6. PhillyPhan69

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    I don’t think you properly read the OP? Ali is group 1 Dempsey is group 4. They can’t meet until the finals. Oh well
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Oops, I just did 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, ect.

    Didn't even read the brackets.
     
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  8. PhillyPhan69

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    try it again Lol....and have Frazier winning it all, and we will be all good bro
     
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  9. TheEliteMaster100

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    Even Eddie Futch conceded that Ali would beat Joe Louis after holding he couldn't for a while.

    Ali does what Billy Conn (who was at 174lbs ) does but better.

    Ali psychological destroys Tyson then takes him into the deep waters and drown him.

    His ATG Heart, ATG Chin and ATG will to win are better than Tyson's let alone his footwork and killer jab.
     
  10. George Crowcroft

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    Sure go on then
    Second attempt
    Round 2
    Ali vs Louis, Ali UD15 (sorry Philly)

    Holmes vs Liston, Holmes UD15 (50-50)

    Bowe vs Frazier, Frazier UD15 (I'd favour Bowe SD12, If it was 12 obviously)

    Foreman vs Dempsey, Foreman TKO2

    Round 3
    Ali vs Holmes, Ali UD15 (50-50)

    Foreman vs Frazier, Foreman TKO4

    Round 4
    Ali vs Foreman, Ali UD15.

    Well, that went to **** didn't Philly. Can't argue with Foreman over Frazier.
     
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  11. SeanK

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    Interesting. I’m also in the camp that foreman and Louis turns into a quick, high action brawl with foreman emerging the victor.

    Do you see Ali being susceptible to tall, smart boxers?
     
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  12. SeanK

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    I’m in the Ali camp my friend. How do you see Louis vs Ali going? Louis vs Tyson is too close to call for me, they both have the assets to beat and ko the other.
     
  13. PhillyPhan69

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    I see Louis either taking a decision over 15 or stopping Ali 13-15.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

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    No, just Wlad and Lewis who have brilliant lefts and the size to land them. I think that they'd pull Ali about in clinches and land lefts more heavily and frequently than Ali would be landing.

    I think they'd both get stopped over 15, but for fighters who only ever fought 12, I schedule my mates for 12.

    Other tall smart boxers like Fury, Vital and indeed Terrel would not do well.
     
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