Heavyweight Tourney: Final: Vitali Klitschko .Vs. Jack Dempsey

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  1. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I favour Dempsey he is far quicker and would be all over Vitali.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Jack and Leon in the final eh? :lol:
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Vitali isnt pretty to watch ,but he is very effective,takes a terrific shot,[I just watched him against LL again],and can punch hard.
    Having said that, I go for Jack ,maybe its an old man's rose coloured glasses thing ,but I feel Dempsey would swarm the big man ,he wouldn't be trundling in like Arreola arms up over his face ,he would be ducking ,bobbing and weaving ,and ,once in range exploding with short punches to the liver and ribcage, then up stairs.
    Speed is the killer here imo,Dempsey has it,coupled with a killer instinct and two fisted power.
    The guys Vitali fights are happy just to survive imo,they dont try and make him do anything he doesn't want to. Dempsey would not allow that, he would be out for blood.Jack by tko 9th rd.
     
  4. JimmyShimmy

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    Exactly mcvey,

    I actually think Vitali ain't a bad fighter at all. He'd give many a good fighter a beating, but we're talking about a prime Jack Dempsey who was not even the same guy against Firpo and Gibbons.

    Vitali is the kind of fighter Dempsey loved to fight. Even if Vitali survived the early onslaught he'd be in bad shape and as a further point Dempsey had good stamina so he would not let up on the attacks after not finishing the job.

    Also, and this is a fact, Dempsey was the best slipper out of all the come-forward fighters. He was phenomenal at it with speedy bends and dips at the waist that none has ever replicated as dynamically as he. Vitali would be pulling his hair out trying to land the jab and then BAM!

    As I've said, I'm not hypnotized by any theories of superiority in latter eras; Dempsey was one-of-a-kind, a killer, and Vitali would almost certainly be his prey.
     
  5. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Huh, didn't know that. I thought he was Irish. I guess that's the rest of him.
     
  6. TommyV

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    That actually made me laugh. :lol:

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    On topic, I'll take Dempsey aswell, and I'm not a huge fan of Dempsey at all. I'm even less of a fan of Vitali, but that defeats the point. :lol:

    I just think Vitali is as JimmyShimmy said, the type of guy Dempsey would love to fight.

    The most difficult part for him is to get within range, but Vitali's jab I don't see of that much of a threat. It's not as varied or snappy as the likes of his brother's or Holmes' for example.

    Combined that with Dempsey's superior foot-speed and bob & weaving, I think Klitschko will struggle to keep the distance with Dempsey constantly closing in faster than Klitschko can back up.

    I also think he will struggle to time Dempsey with that head movement, as evidenced by the way he struggled to time Gomez for the first 5 or 6 rounds. Dempsey is obviously a better exponent of it.

    Therefore I feel that Dempsey has enough to get inside or to sort of mid-range and that's where it's game over. Vitali I'm sure is capable of fighting inside and he's evidently strong, but Dempsey would be ripping left hooks to body and head all the time and Vitali isn't going to be just taking them and trying to get his own punches off.

    I mean he's got a great chin, but if anybody is capable of hurting Vitali than Dempsey is certainly up there. He has the advantages here in speed of hand and foot, in power, and most important I think he'll be the one finding it easier to get his punches off; he'll be the one to set the pace and he'll be the one fighting the type of fight that's he's comfortable in.
     
  7. KTFO

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    Dempsey too robotic. Vitali lands at will. Klit by KO.
     
  8. McGrain

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    This post forces me to change my "don't know" to Dempsy by TKO in the second. I think that Dempsey's superb footwork, slipping and fast hard slashing punches cut Vitali up and force the referee's hand after the second KD.
     
  9. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ok vitali is a modern fighter and huge so dempsey has no chance as he weighs less than 220 and is from an era when fighters had no real skills moved slowly and and were not big enough to hurt the fighters of today.



    no really dempsey by stoppage vitali is slow and robotic and although strong with a good chin he gets busted up and is saved by his corner at the end of the 8th
     
  10. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His father Hiram was part Choctaw, and his mother Celia was part Cherokee. That heritage is obvious in his coloring and his features. During the 1970s and 1980s, he would have probably been promoted as Danny Lopez was, complete with feathered headdress. Jack was photographed with tribesmen garbed like this.

    Joe Louis was one quarter Cherokee on his mother's side, and Jimmy Bivins in fact called him, "Big Red."
     
  11. KTFO

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    Now you came out of the closet. :rofl
     
  12. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali is a perfect opponent for a prime Dempsey to showcase his abilities! Dempsey would stop Vitali inside of 7 rounds...in a brutal way...in my opinion. A stoppage in the first round would not be out of the question...again...in my opinion.
     
  13. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gene Tunney out boxes both , on the same day!!!
     
  14. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Well done for posting something completely unrelated and irrelevant. Would you like to get back to the actual question now?
     
  15. Hookie

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    I defend the old guys all the time but I can't do it this time... Klitschko by late round KO.