Heavyweight Tourney: Final: Vitali Klitschko .Vs. Jack Dempsey

Im not sure how Dempsey and Vitali made the final, what happened to Ali, Marciano, Louis, and Holmes ??

Theres only one winner of this match and thats Dempsey, he was a fighter to his core, Vitali takes centre, jabs and is endlessly scared of taking a shot .. That works with the modern era as its the weakest era in history, but not against Dempsey, Dempsey had skills as well as power, he could cut range like lightning and get some damaging shots off ....

Vitali is a fraud, Dempsey is one of the greatest heavys of all time, this prediction is easy .... Dempsey stoppage within 5 rounds, Vitali's 'Jab' expertise wont help him against a proper, skilled heavyweight ....

 

It was a white champions/contenders only tournament. No Ali, no Louis, no Holmes, no Lewis, no Tyson. You get the idea. Marciano lost to Vitali in the semi's.

 

Thanks for the heads up, the final should have been Dempsey v Tunney if Marciano got dumped out and we all know how that ended up .. maybe a mythical match of Dempsey 1918 v Tunney in 1925 would have been the best scenario .... Vitali shouldnt really figure into anyones equation, Cooney was better than Vitali !!

A semi-racist post this but Vitali in any heavyweight final is an insult as far as im concerned ..

Marciano and Tunney are disregarded but Vitali is in the final, who the hell voted on this ??

 

Here's the full bout of results for you or anyone interested that hasn't been following:

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Max Schmeling UD10 Billy Conn
Rocky Marciano TKO9 Gerrie Coetzee
Jack Dempsey TKO6 Nikolai Valuev
Wladimir Klitschko TKO10 Gerry Cooney
George Chuvalo UD10 John Ruiz
Gene Tunney UD10 Ingemar Johansson
David Tua SD10 Jerry Quarry
James Jeffries UD10 Max Baer
Tommy Morrison UD10 Corrie Sanders
Andrew Golota UD10 Jess Willard
Oscar Bonavena TKO10 Primo Carnera
Les Darcy SD10 Henry Cooper
Tommy Burns SD10 James J Braddock
John L Sullivan MD10 Jack Sharkey
James Corbett UD10 Luis Firpo
Vitali Klitschko TKO9 Bob Fitzsimmons

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Rocky Marciano UD12 Andrew Golota
John L Sullivan KO4 Tommy Morrison
Vitali Kltschko TKO9 Tommy Burns
Wladimir Klitschko UD12 Jim Jeffries
Gene Tunney UD12 George Chuvalo
Jack Dempsey TKO6 Max Schmeling
James Corbett TKO10 Les Darcy
Oscar Bonavena UD12 David Tua

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Jack Dempsey TKO9 Oscar Bonavena
Vitali Klitschko TKO13 James Corbett
Rocky Marciano MD15 Gene Tunney
John L Sullivan TKO15 Wladimir Klitschko*

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Wladimir Klitschko UD15 Gene Tunney*
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Jack Dempsey TKO6 Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko TKO13 Rocky Marciano

*It seems that this might of been miscalculated by la-califa, or at least the majority weren't happy about the result. Because of this, la-califa overturned it (Officially, Sullivan couldn't continue due to injuries sustained in the bout) so he went ahead and plotted Wlad vs Tunney to decide who makes the semi's.

 

Thanks for that Tommy, i'd question the thinking in Rocky being defeated by Vitali, wouldnt question Tunney being defeated by Marciano but thats the way these mythological tournaments go i suppose, Wlad never beats Tunney for me but im honestly biased, Wlad isnt fit to clean Tunneys jockstrap in my opinion ..

Dempsey must be declared the winner .. Vitali winning with his limited skillset downgrades the sport

 

Would have liked to have seen Max Baer take on Vitali at some point, im pretty sure that would have been the end of Vitali in this tournament but hey the greatest White Heavyweight tournament should have been between, Tunney, Marciano, Dempsey and Baer ,

Tunney v Marciano
Dempsey v Baer in the semis with 'probably'

Marciano v Dempsey in the final .... Vitali being there gives me kidney stones ....

 

if you watch footage of vitali he is very much like willard not just in size but even style, over all body deminisons beyond size....jab....hands low...everything..with one difference....vitali seems to be much better at stepping back and off to the size...so even if you get past his jab..he often still isnt their...willard never was very good at that..even look at the carl mooris footage or the Johnson footage....so while i love the old times..and while my name is choosen last name is Dempsey, I have to go with klitschko by late round KO...but Jack definitly stands a shot.

 

Baer is nowhere near the class of Marciano, Dempsey and Tunney.

 

guys what is this based on..i love the old times..and i think many people underestimate them..but are people actually arguing that Klitschko would stand no chance aganst men he outweighted by 70 soild pounds.

 

Didnt make a case that he was, but dont try and convince me that Vitali, a stiff who has been taught expertly to use his natural size advantage against very average opponents, deserves to beat Marciano and Dempsey .. Thats madness, he has a jab and he uses his natural range but Vitali stands out in a media age against no-skill opposition .. He's nothing, but him in with a decent fighter with a few skills, it wouldnt need to be even the top tier, put him in with Lyle or Young and he'd be found out, a 'live' Charles and Holyfield would deal with him .... Its alright making your reputation with wins against guys like Danny Williams, Kevin Johnson, Sam Peter and Corrie Sanders but against guys with some ability he's easy meat .....

 

I don't think there's anyway Tunney beats Wlad. Klitsckho is a very good technical boxer, and so is Tunney. That's the problem. Wlad has all the advantage's because they would both try to box and Wlad has the advantage in height and reach and size. His flaws - his ability or therefore 'lack of' to cope with pressure and perhaps his chin - aren't really underthreat here.

 

What? From what I remember, Vitali had absolutely no trouble in any way after feeling him out the first round. Of course, an HW Gomez has none of the mobility of Dempsey but still, just addressing the Gomez/VK fight.

 

Dempsey is built from the ground up to destroy either Klitschko.

His style is based around frustrating any fighter who tries to keep him at range. His head movment is verry unpredictable.

If all you have is a long jab amd flat feet, then you might as well surrender before the fight, because that is the one punch that he could avoid all day today and tomorrow.

If you don't have good infighting skills then you are prety much screwed. If you don't have an efficient uppercut then you are in a world of pain.

 

Sounds like awful news for Vitali. I still think his chances are better than his brother's, but still a nightmare fight.

 

Dempsey beats the upright robot vitali all over the ring.I have know idea how vitali tko's rocky in 13,I don't know how anyone can even compare vitali to a great he has fought nobodys and is so boring,I believe it was teddy atlas that said "watching his fights is like watching paint dry".