Heavyweight Tourney: Rd 2: Wladimir Klitschko . Vs. Jim J. Jefferies

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  1. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Round Two!
    How would Wladimir do, fresh off of his victory over Gerry Cooney. Now facing Jim J. Jefferies, who is coming off of his own victory over the tough Max Baer.

    Please explain you reasoning for your prediction. Please give predicted result.
    Round Two. 12 Rounds.
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Jeffries was not a great defensive minded fighter. He had his nose broken on three occasions in his career, including by the much smaller Tom Sharkey. He was beaten up by a past prime Fitz who was also much smaller in size, until Jeff cought up with him later. James enjoyed a rather large Size advantage over most of his opponents, and in fact, only fought less than a handful of men who would be modern heavys by today's standards. He'd be dwarfed by Klitschko, and frankly based on what I've read of Jeffries, Klitschko would not only have an advantage in size and strength, but is also the better technician as well.

    Klit by mid round stoppage.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    See I reckon that Jeffries would expose Wlad's technical shortcomings left right and centre in this fight. Having said that, it would probably be on the way to a 12 round decision.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Actually there are conflicting stories about Jeffries attitude to punishment,some said he stoically walked through it ,others that he had a reluctance to take punches,what is in no doubt is that in his prime he took everything that was thrown his way without once going down .
    It is true he did not face more than one challenger over 200lbs ,and him only just,but no one ever said Jeffries was staggered by a punch and Fitz and Choynsky ,while lighter men, were known as serious heavy duty punchers.I think he could take the punches of a super heavyweight,whether he could afford to take as many as he did from the challengers he faced in his time is another matter.Reports of some of his fights have him, his face, a crimson mask ,nose broken, eyebrows ripped open ,abrasions under both eyes.Today he would not be as big as Evander Holyfield ,whom many said was not a true heavyweight , he would have no physical advantages in fact he would be conceding height and weight to most everybody.He could probably match strength with a lot of todays heavies ,he was a tremendous physical specimen,could he adapt to todays 15 rounders?
    Jeffries had a serious wallop , but was not an earth shattering puncher, he wore down most of his opponents ,who, for the most part were on the slide a bit , that is no reflection on him, he fought who was around ,with the exception of Johnson,whom he came back to tackle ,when clearly past his best.
    Would Jeffries be able to land enough heavy artillery to put a hurt on the Ukrainian, and sow the seeds of doubt in his mind? Or, would Wlad be able to pick him off from distance and not risk his somewhat shaky chin in close?
    If Wlad were to win by stoppage ,it would be by tko imo, I dont think he would ko Jeffries, Jeffries was a very effective body puncher ,he damaged both Sharkey and Ruhlins ribs,if he could close the giant down he might inflict some serious mayhem downstairs, but he would be eating Wlad's jab coming in and Wlad has two fisted power, and can probably match Jeffries for strength.Though it wasnt proven against super heavies ,I give Jeffries the edge on durability chin wise, but his facial tissue might let him down in today's fights where referee's stop proceedings much earlier.
    I am going to wait and see what others say and make my mind up then.
    Mendoza will be between the "rock and the hard place" on this one.
    WHAT'S THAT OLD SONG ,TORN BETWEEN TWO LOVERS?
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    As I have told your before, Munore was 210 pounds, so your statement that Jeffries did not face more than one challenger over 200 lbs is false. I have shown you the news report at least twice. Nothing new here. It seems I'm often correcting you on this topic.

    Also, my picks have very little to do with who I want to win. I think Jeffries would wear Wlad down and take him out late. Jeffries is not Sam Peter who would gas and be tied up, nor is he Ruslan Chagaev who lacked the agility, reach and speed to land on Wlad.
     
  6. punchy

    punchy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I will go for Jeffries here I feel he may expose Wlad's stamina problems again but wlad likes fighting a fighter of Jeffries style now, so it is a hard one to call it probably doesn't go the distance though.
     
  7. Muchmoore

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    I favor Wlad in the current rule set.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Munroe was under 6 foot tall .When he fought a washed up Sharkey he scaled 14lbs more than the 5 foot 8in Sailor who seldom scaled more than 183lbs.
    Before his fight with Klitschko you extolled the virtues of Chagaev to all and sundry,now you say he lacked agility,reach ,and speed ,he didnt really have much going for him then did he?
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    klitschko domination to a stoppage inside 8.
    jeffries constantly hammered by straight and long punches jabs included.
    bloodied and dazed he either retires on his stool or the ref mercifully stops the one-sided beating.
     
  10. Flea Man

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    Wlad would stop him early IMO.
     
  11. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cant see wlad being that aggressive to stop him early ,but i would take a wlad stoppage win around the 8th
     
  12. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    :lol:


    Jeffries fought in a completely different ruleset than Wlad did. 12 rounds is Wlad's ballpark and not only do i think he will win, i think he'll win almost every round and perhaps score a TKO. Jeffries never fought a decent heavyweight over 200lbs, either.
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    As always Chris, you bring a vast wealth of common sense to the table that this forum often lacks. I'd say your post basically sums it up nicely.:good
     
  14. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow, you folks are showing Jeff no love, which I think is erroneous. Jeffries had an iron jaw, wonderful condition, great strength, and power in both hands, particularly to the body. In his prime, he was relentless. He knew how to pace himself for the particular distance at hand and always knew how to pick it up in the late rounds as he saw the end of the fight was approaching. I say if Lamon Brewster, Corrie Sanders, Ross Purritty can get Vlad out of there, so can James J. Jeffries. Jeff had a very stiff and powerful left hand. He was left handed. Just watch how Brewster's left jabs to Vlad's body wore him down. Brewster was not the puncher that Jeffries was, but he had a jaw, as did Jeff. Jeffries would tear into Vlad and not stop until the job was done, and I guarantee he would pick up the pace for the last 3-4 rounds if Vlad was still standing.
     
  15. Shake

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    Jeffries' athletic ability and stamina may allow him to set a pace that is very uncomfortable to Wlad should he choose to do so, and that indeed is his best shot.

    However, in the end, I think he'd just eat too many jabs. Wlad by slow long-range pole-axing.