Heavyweights 1991 VS 2011

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  1. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    20 years separate these Champs And 5 best Heavyweights in teh world.

    Who wins? You decide.

    ***Champs***

    Holyfield VS Wladimir Klitschko

    **Top Men**

    Lenny Lewis VS Vitali Klitschko

    Tyson VS Povektin

    Old Foreman VS Adamek

    Razor Ruddock VS Helenius

    Moorer VS Chambers


    My opinions to be posted later.


    Foreman Hooooooooooooooooooooook!:smoke
     
  2. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who wins? You decide.

    ***Champs***

    Holyfield VS Wladimir Klitschko; i tend to WK by decision but it's a very very close fight

    **Top Men**

    Lenny Lewis VS Vitali Klitschko; VK by tko late against an unexperienced and green lewis

    Tyson VS Povektin; tyson by early ko

    Old Foreman VS Adamek; very close fight, adamek by pot shoting and running or big george by ko

    Razor Ruddock VS Helenius; Helenius by ko, bad style mach up for RR

    Moorer VS Chambers, Moorer by wide decision


    and yeah thats my honest opinion!:deal
     
  3. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I disagree here because Adamek showed he can not take HW punch and Foreman even old hit harder than Vitali IMO.
     
  4. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    thats very possible, but foreman has not vitalis' ring iq, he has not his footwork and is way slower and tires big time. so adamek if he fights the perfect fight has a great chance
     
  5. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Holyfield VS Wladimir Klitschko

    Holyfield by TKO.

    Lenny Lewis VS Vitali Klitschko

    Lewis by TKO.

    Tyson VS Povektin

    Tyson by KO.

    Old Foreman VS Adamek

    Foreman by KO. Adamek has some chances.

    Razor Ruddock VS Helenius

    Ruddock by TKO.

    Moorer VS Chambers

    Moorer by decision or TKO.
     
  6. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Holyfield VS Wladimir Klitschko- Holy by decision/late tko, he would rough Wlad up on the inside and wouldn't stop when he gets hit. Terrible style for Wlad.

    Lenny Lewis VS Vitali Klitschko- Lewis already won. Prime Lewis would beat him much easier.

    Tyson VS Povektin- Tyson easy knockout, the style comparison immediately makes me think though. i still think Povetkin would get hit too easily.

    Old Foreman VS Adamek- Foreman by early knockout after some running by adamek

    Razor Ruddock VS Helenius- Rudduck by easy knockout

    Moorer VS Chambers- Moorer by decision
     
  7. The Class of 1991.

    All by knockout.

    A green but explosive Lewis vs this version of Vitali is a mismatch. A faded Lewis vs prime Vitali is a real fight (as we saw) - but let's not pretend VK is the same fighter as he once was.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    And, what does this tell us about the quality of the heavyweight division today?
     
  9. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    Agree 100%


    Keith
     
  10. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    What very close fights has Wlad ever won?? Except VS a fat journeyman caveman slugger called Sam "Who Nex?" Peter??

    Holyfield is a ATG And was at teh top of his Prime in 1991. He would not let Wlad breath, he would not let Wlad get comfortable, he would rough him up with elbows, headbutts And lowblows, like TommyG said, And Wlad would get whupped proper badly by Holyfield's rapid-fire combos on teh inside. Wlad is 100% useless on teh inside, so he would never beat a Great-Infighter, unless he was allowed to ILLEGALLY hug And lean for his life 150+ times in 12 Rounds! Holyfield grinds Wlad down physically And mentally. If made to fight HARD at a good pace And under Pressure, Wlad gets gassed and lashed, see Brewster VS Wlad 1.

    **Top Men**

    Lewis was green, BUT he still had teh heart and moxy to fight through teh adversity to win a tough war VS undefeated Gary Mason. When did Vitali ever win a tough fight/war of adversity? He lost by stoppage to Old Chubby Lewis And by Quitjob to Blown-up Supermiddle Pillowfisted Byrd in teh only hard fights he ever had. VItali is a H2H Monster when he gets all his own way, But he is also a Spineless Bully who folds under adversity. Young Lenny TKO4 Old Vitali, as this Lewis was way faster And more explosive than 38 year old Lewis, And Old Vitali's ageing skin would slice up quicker than in his youth.

    1994 Old Foreman who was undertrained And 3 years past his comeback-prime, still sparked Moorer out. Moorer is bloody miles better skilled And faster than mediocre-at-heavyweight (yet similar style) Adamek. 1991 Old Foreman pummels Adamek accross teh ring with his telephone-pole jab And knocks him ragdoll cold in 3 Rounds.

    Bad style match-up for Helenius you mean. This is teh same Helenius who was getting beaten-up by a v.past-prime, v.rusty, damaged-goods version of Liakhovich. And the same Helenius who needed a Blatant Gift Decision VS Chisora who beat his ass hard. Helenius gets countered easy by teh way better timing of Razor, And gets SMASHED in mid-rounds. And watch Ruddock VS Bonecusher, look how mint Razor can do his lateral footwork And ramrod jab, when facing Bonecrusher who has teh same style And slowness as Helenius. Smith was better than Robert too.

    Or TKO if Chambers does not play it v.safe.


    Foreman Hooooooooooooooook!:smoke
     
  11. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I cant envision any of the 2011 fighters beating the guys of 1991.
     
  12. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    The style comparison made me think too, And remember Povetkin is 4inches taller And 16lbs heavier.

    I do agree Tyson would find Povetkin a easy come-forward target, but could Alex not use his extra size/strength to push Mike onto teh backfoot where he is useless?? But I do guess Povetkin would not manage to keep Tyson on teh backfoot for long, And teh superior Firepower, Skills And Speed of Mike would win him teh slugfest.

    What really makes it maybe hard for Tyson is Teddy Atlas in Povetkin's corner. Atlas would mind**** Mike in teh build-up press-conferences to teh fight, embarrasing And mentally scarring him in front of teh world. How you may ask?? By telling Tyson how Cus would be so disapointed in him for chosing Richy Giachetti as his trainer, cos Cus proper hated him. Plus imagine what Teddy would yell @ Mike between Rounds to frustrate him!! :yep


    Foreman Hoooooooooooooook!:smoke
     
  13. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    But what if there would be no between rounds?;)
     
  14. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    Good point m8! :thumbsup


    Teddy better bring his .44, to erm 'help' Alex. :lol:
     
  15. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can see a green Lennox losing to Klitschko,at these respective points. Aside from that,I envisage '91 winning,handsdown.