Heavyweights as good a division we've seen since the mid 90s

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  1. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member booted Full Member

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    The big 3 all have strong fan bases and have established a true US, UK rivalry, each with their own unique style and vulnerabilities

    Ruiz has crashed the party as a real life Rocky story, plus put Mexico on the HW map

    The lower half of the HW division is still full of guys capable of upsets and exciting fights like White, Ortiz and Parker

    I don't much care for Usyk or his fans, but its still always exciting to have the CW champ move up and make his challenge,and to be honest, in historical sense they often have pretty good success

    Plus you still got wild cards like Jerrel Miller and Konacki out there...they probably won't light the world on fire, but they can still be interesting opponents

    And of course Derrick Chisora is always a fun guy to watch.

    If you ask me the HW division is as good as its been in about 25 years, chalk full of potential barnburner matchups, excitement, and unpredictability
     
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    Reg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    careful, you'll upset the boomers.
     
  3. Scar

    Scar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Easily agree there. If only we could seriously add Fury to the mix, this would make things a lot better than they are too. The only issue with the Heavyweight division is the same issue it had for a very long time now. It explodes with excitement then one or two fights later it goes mute for a very long time. It can’t seem to hold the level of excitement for a long enough time, which is why people tend to forget it the division rather quickly.
     
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  4. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member booted Full Member

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    Man this is perfect example of why we need a Don King in the mix. This modern day of fight promoters has done right be the fighters, but not by the fans....
    If UFC cab sell bullsh!t fights between washed up McDonalds employees, boxing has no excuse
     
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  5. Scar

    Scar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You got that right. Marketing and advertising is just poor nowadays compared to when Don King was around. It’s amazing how UFC went on from struggling to compete with the WWE to how it is today. What’s hilarious about this too, is that UFC fighters don’t even get paid well compared to Boxers. It’s all about marketing and advertising. UFC is all over the place where it matters(social media) while Boxing is hardly seen. I think Boxing as a whole threw the white flag recently (Alvarez vs Kovalev) in the most pathetic and shameless fashion when they cleared the way for UFC’s main event before starting their own. They went far enough to delay the main event for 1+ hour(s) than the usual. What’s even more alarming is that the Boxing fight involved arguably the biggest name in the sport today.
     
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  6. PaddyGarcia

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    In terms of ability, I don't think do. In terms of well matched fights that could be made and be genuinely interesting to watch, then I agree for sure.
     
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  7. Jamzy ⭐

    Jamzy ⭐ Active Member booted Full Member

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    Even better, if you ask me. The heavies of the 90's couldn't land a glove on today's heavyweights.
     
  8. kdyehs

    kdyehs Member Full Member

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    I highly disagree. 90's had the best mix of heavyweight ever produced in history. The best defensive fighter Chris Byrd, murdering punchers in the like of David Tua, the best super heavyweight Lennox Lewis, best future star in the person of Ibeabuchi, even the best journeyman of all time Marion Wilson ! Some older fighters were aging like wine and still competing at the hightest level, Holyfield of course. From A to Z better than today.
     
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    POTUS Boxing by the numbers Full Member

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    Butter bean vs Andy Ruiz is close
     
  10. Jamzy ⭐

    Jamzy ⭐ Active Member booted Full Member

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    David Tua was a pushover, Byrd while talented was not good enough and quite fraudulent, Lennox was great, Tyson was old, Ike was overrated and hyped, Holyfield was good, the rest of them (Tony Tucker, Bruce Seldon, Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrision) like Razor Ruddock were one dimensional and rubbish.
     
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    kdyehs Member Full Member

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    I would take an old Tyson, old Foreman, old Holyfield over Andy Ruiz anytime. Shannon Briggs was also entertaining with his hand speed and left hook, he almost drop Lewis to the ground and had the heart of a champion.
     
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    Jamzy ⭐ Active Member booted Full Member

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    Old Foreman struggled against Axel Schulz ffs. Old Holyfield was good, but he eventually lost to James Toney (an absolute fraud) and struggled against Bean the older he got. Old Tyson was rubbish and washed up.
     
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    chico g Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That blob would be too ferocious for those once great heavyweights in the 90s. All hail burger kings last great champion!
     
  14. Jamzy ⭐

    Jamzy ⭐ Active Member booted Full Member

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    You're a blob...
     
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  15. kdyehs

    kdyehs Member Full Member

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    That is some questionable adjectives. Having an opinion is always a fun thing, but James Toney fight happened in 2003. The heavyweight division were in decline at that moment and ready to let the Klitschko brothers reign supreme. Roy Jones became heavyweight champion in 2003 that also indicate the weakest point ever for this division.
     


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