Heavyweights Have Always Sucked

Sadly. I think that was back before I knew how fragile Wlad's chin is.

 

Was it before Sanders fight?

 

Ew, no wonder boxing was so dirty back then.

 

Yep. Oceans 11 was 2001. Sanders fight was 2003.

 

Thanks :good

 

Notice how heavyweights are hated since Klitschkos are dominating? Sour grapes. If Chambers were to somehow win you will see the same old haters claiming that Chamber is the greatest fighter of all time and heavyweights are the best.

 

Nah, man.

I feel most boxing fans are just dying to see the Klitschkos dominate and overwhelm the heavweight divison, become undisputed champion for years and years and KTFO every challenger that comes in their way, and make boxing history.

Trouble is, they havent yet fulfilled their promise and their full potential.

 

The reason Fraizer got Ali is that he was persistent and walked through a lot of Ali shots. Marciano would do the same and had very heavy hands for his size. I could see Marciano winning an inevitable slug fest.

Ali was really a great heavyweight but some of these guys would have given him hell. Particularly Fraizer, Marciano and Louis.

Foreman would handle both Frazier and Marciano in exactly the same way. Too much explosive power for them to handle.

I think of Lewis differently though, in that he didn't go balls out like Foreman did. He didn't have the same kind of lateral power that Foreman used to bomb out Fraizer. I suspect for that reason, Frazier would have some success against Lewis. Probably enough to win. Marciano may have been too small for Lewis.

Tyson would have beaten Fraizer in his prime as well as Marciano for the same reason Foreman did. Explosive lateral power. It murders smaller men. Tyson would have struggled with Holyfield at any time and probably Ali as well. Tyson would have gotten Lewis though, as I think his knockout of an aging Larry Holmes illustrated that he knew how to get to ordinary big men. Foreman gets knocked out by Tyson just because I don't think Foreman would be able to trade with Tyson, even though he'd try. Both guys winging big shots but I take Tyson to win that.

As for the Klitschkos, I think Vitali would beat Frazier and Marciano, would probably get Foreman late but it'd be a war, would lose to Ali and Lewis and probably would get Tyson. Now that is only because Vitali's chin is good enough to weather the early storms and his power would be consistent on Tyson. This is another case of explosive lateral power. Tyson brings it too but Vitali is the bigger man and holds the rule that it murders smaller men.

Wladimir probably loses a fair bit of these fights because of his willpower and chin. Too much heat even coming from a guy like Tyson whose approach would be that of a terminator. Maybe too big for Marciano and Fraizer though.

Leaving names out but don't feel like making a huge list.

 

Vlad chose to fight Chambers and all the other top ranked heavyweights he could get into a ring. Vlad had a signed contract with Haye and Haye broke it. Vitali had implied contract and Haye broke it. Vlad beat Chagave, who was the real WBA champion.

 

Not at all. If Chambers were to win then that would just prove to everybody that Wlad is a fraud and he wasn't all that good.

I think most people are rooting for the somebody to take over and dominate the division in an exciting style. The Klitschko's haven't and that's why most people really don't like them...at least as Boxers.

 

TKO's and KO's are not exciting? Have you ever watched Larry Holmes, Ali, Jimmy Young, etc.?

 

Was I talking about myself? I said most people want an exciting style IE: Mike Tyson. Why so serious? lol. :rofl

 

Good analysis but in regards to Tyson, the longer the fight goes the more his chances of winning drop off. He never was real effective later on in fights. If Frazier and Marciano could drag him deep(without either being knocked out or succuming to bad swelling[Frazier] or a badly lacerated face[Marciano]) then they could beat Mike.

 

Did you watch Lewis/Tua? Holmes/Cobb? It's OK, I understand.

The prejudice against Klitschkos has been awful.

 

LMAO. Wow. You keep on getting lower and lower. Somehow, I'm prejudice against the Klitschko's even though I have them high on my ATG HW list, and I give them there due with most posts I do. :rofl :rofl :nut