Heavyweights in P4P?

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Wlad is #9 p4p in the Yahoo poll. Vitali is #11.

If Wlad goes through Chambers, Povetkin and Haye this year I'm sure he will be top 5 by 2011.

 

come on man.. size is a physical skill as is strength, power etc.. should they just not use their reach? should they fight short just to convince guys like you? no, you use what you have and ofcourse Wlad is top 10 p4p.

 

The late 80's were not that big for boxing.
Tyson was the boom after the 4 kings.

Plus he was a legitimate speedy heavyweight.
Tyson in his prime was astonishing.

 

Yes they are viable if they're good enough if that's what you mean. People think they don't qualify because they're big for some reason. Pound for pound was coined so that fighters can be compared regardless of weight, so you can imagine them all the same size. So yeah, a heavyweight is as viable as anyone else because they're all the 'same size', gotta be fair to heavies as well.

 

i would say yes, but i think it would be rare. the skill level of top heavyweights seems to be several notches below the best divisions. James toney has pound for pound skills, although he's old now, and wasn't a true heavyweight.

 

Are we just talking are any heavies good enough to be in there right now?

 

one thing that i think defeats wlad and vitali being on # for # lists is their size.

If Vitali was 5'6" and 147 .lbs, then do you think he could beat Manny Pac?

'Cause I don't even think it would competitive.

 

Yeah, lets discredit them for being HW'satsch

How many other big men have been completely useless?
How many other big men have utilized their advantages the way the Bros do.

Jesus......

 

If he was 5'6" the way he was trained his movement etc would be completely different.

What a nonsense point.

I assume you believe PBF/Pac/ODLH would all move the same if they were 6'7???atsch

 

Those guys weren't in the same huge light as Leonard/Ali type popularity.

He definitely wasn't a better boxer than whittaker or Taylor, but it was amazing to watch a compact power punching speed machine heavyweight.

 

No, i don't. but isn't that the whole point of # for #? If two guys are the same size, then who would win? That's how i define # for #.

How do you define it?

Also, why so much hostility? hahaha Do you think my point is really THAT ridiculous?

 

That makes sense. Then maybe heavyweights really shouldn't be considered when we talk about # for # rankings.

 

Are you serious? If what you are saying were true, Julius Long would be champ. :--(

 

Sorry if I came across as hostile.

Yes I do.

The only reasonable comparrison P4P imo is resume, which they lack due to standard of opposition.

Name me one hw over 6'5 that's been a mover the way small guys are.

Again if Pac/PBF were 6'7 do you think they'd have the same style?