Heavyweights. Old timers vs modern.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by SmackDaBum, Jan 3, 2017.


Golden era vs modern super hws...

  1. Golden era

    45.7%
  2. Modern era

    54.3%
  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I actually said I think he loses to some of the ones u mentioned because on average the weight difference and skills of modern day fighters would be to much. To small. They would be knocked around the ring. Put a cruiserweight in against Lewis or wlad. Nine times out of ten there getting battered. Joe Louis is
    Not a super man my friend
     
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  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Now u answer. Do u see dempsey beating lennox or tyson. Head to head prime?
     
  3. HerolGee

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    yes, but they would be at a comparative fitness disadvantage, the man carrying less bulk will always enjoy less oxygen debt and their hearts have to work less hard.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    SHame it doesnt back up the question you have been asked (more than once). you were asked about punch resistance.

    why have you answered a question that wasnt asked?
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    no, you are talking two different points and inventing a relationship between them. YOu are basically saying that theres a car with a high top speed, explained by its engine size, AND then adding an unrelated fact (such as claiming the car has great drag coefficient, offering no evidence for it except the unrelated fact about engine size).

    Why do you KEEP doing this? SUrely you MUST be aware of your mistake by now?
     
  6. dinovelvet

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    I only mentioned 3 guys.. Wilder , Whyte and Chisora. For the 10th time , does Louis beat them , or does he lose to them.

    I get your an alt and have no problem going full returd to avoid the question... I get that, don't worry.
     
  7. dinovelvet

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    Mike Tyson would destroy Dempsey. Id pick Lewis as well , but wouldn't be surprised at an upset. Especially if you took Lewis and put him into Dempseys time.
     
  8. AliMyths&Legends

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    You said in this very quote "offering no evidence for this."
    I have just provided heaps of evidence for the fact you have more punch resistance if you weigh more on average.
    What about the evidence I have already provided you like how Frazier, Wladimir, Fury, Whyte, Parker etc all struggle to KO heavier opponents. That is evidence, that is facts.
    If you deny hard evidence, what is the point of even discussing the reason why behind it.
     
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    Joseph Parker against opponents under 240 pounds 7/7 100% KO rate, over 240 pounds 10/15 66% KO rate.

    Derrick Chisora: under 240 pounds, 12/19 64% KO rate, over 240 pounds, 6/14 42% KO rate.

    Wladimir Klitschko: under 240 pounds, 34/41 83% KO rate, over 240 pounds 18/25 72% KO rate.

    Tyson Fury: under 240 pounds, 9/12 75% KO rate, over 240 pounds 9/13 69% KO rate.

    Dillian Whyte: under 240 pounds 11/15 73% KO rate, over pounds 240 4/6 66% KO rate.

    Mike Tyson, Ali, Shavers, Norton, Brewster all struggle to KO heavier opponents because they have more punch resistance.

    If being heavier does not give you more punch resistance, why do these boxers above find it harder to KO heavier opponents?
     
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  10. dinovelvet

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    Dimentriko was 255 pound
    Tackam was 240 pound

    Dimentriko was blown away in 3 rounds . Takam went the distance and was never close to being dropped.. Explain?
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    Wladimir Klitschko couldn't knock out 210 lbs glass chin David Haye but put 250 lbs Pulev to sleep.
    Explain?
     
  12. AliMyths&Legends

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    What did I say? I said on average heavier opponents have more punch resistance. Which is supported by logic and all the facts I have provided. Do you not understand what AVERAGE means???
     
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  13. dinovelvet

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    Cruiser weights can take a better punch than David Price. Povetkin took Wlads left better than Pulev who is bigger and heavier.
    Boxing is judged on a case by case basis. Quality of opposition is why KO% will fall off.
    Nobody from the post Lewis era is knocking out 210 lbs Larry Holmes. A guy like Leapai 245 lbs will get knocked out 10/10.
    There is no facts and logic in broad generalisations. The Heavyweight Blog is not a factual or objective source on boxing.
     
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  14. HerolGee

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    that was to outline the analogy of the car. I am asking HOW. Give me the mechanics.

    I am asking you how extra weight improves your chin.
    You continue to have not answered.
     
  15. AliMyths&Legends

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    Joseph Parker against opponents under 240 pounds 7/7 100% KO rate, over 240 pounds 10/15 66% KO rate.

    Derrick Chisora: under 240 pounds, 12/19 64% KO rate, over 240 pounds, 6/14 42% KO rate.

    Wladimir Klitschko: under 240 pounds, 34/41 83% KO rate, over 240 pounds 18/25 72% KO rate.

    Tyson Fury: under 240 pounds, 9/12 75% KO rate, over 240 pounds 9/13 69% KO rate.

    Dillian Whyte: under 240 pounds 11/15 73% KO rate, over pounds 240 4/6 66% KO rate.

    Mike Tyson, Ali, Shavers, Norton, Brewster all struggle to KO heavier opponents because they have more punch resistance.

    If being heavier does not give you more punch resistance, why do these boxers above find it harder to KO heavier opponents?

    Still waiting for you to provide any counter evidence for this objective evidence that heavier opponents on average are harder to KO?