Heavyweights who are as ready as they'll ever be and need to fight better opponents

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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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  2. El Gallo Negro

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    Tyson Fury.

    why has he still fighting the Otto Walins, Kayabal Kijits, and Tomim Shwatzs of the world?

    tell me that one.

    this guy should be fighting AJ, Joyce, may be Usyk if Usyk has the balls, and Wilder. that's it
     
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  3. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    According to Hearn, Tyson Fury's fight with Anthony Joshua is in the works for May or June 2021.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Add Gassiev, who we are talking about on another thread.

    Sirenko is ready for a step up.

    Majodiv and Nistor spent so long in the ams that they might s well just go for broke.

    I want to see more of Stephen Shaw on the American scene.
     
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  5. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    I kind of remember Malik Scott being like this ... not making the most of his prime then making a bit of a run when it was too late.

    Constant rematches and negotiations sagas at the top don't help either. Most the second tier HWs are waiting for a window around the belts and don't want to fight anyone coming up before they get a possible opening for a belt.
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That guy literally took 13 years to take a decent fight and then took dives to both Chisora and Wilder.
     
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  7. Serge

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    David Allen had 10 amateur fights against nobodies and in his 11th and 12th pro fights respectively he fought Dillian Whyte and Luis Ortiz. So in his 21st and 22nd fights ever he fought Whyte and Ortiz in back to back fights.

    Bear with Serge because he's getting there.

    Now compare that to The Tuscaloser who despite having 35 amateur fights and being an Olympian wouldn't dare step up to Ortiz level until his 40th pro outing and until Ortiz was two weeks shy of his 39th birthday. Allen stepped up to Ortiz level in just his 22nd fight ever (and that was against a younger closer to prime Ortiz than the Cuban cadaver Team Bombzsquad dragged from the nursing home by his bib), whereas The Tuscaloser wouldn't step up to that level until his 75th fight. Not to mention he obviously pulled one of the most infamous, shameless and longest ducks in living memory when he went Dillian Ducking for like 1000 days or something, whereas Allen took on Whyte in just his 11th pro fight, 21st fight ever.

    Put some respect on The Doncaster De la Hoya's name and some disrespect on Deontay Ducksquad's.
     
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  8. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is where I think DAZN or other promoters could do a better job of creating main events. Or Showtime, for that matter. These are interesting fights in a highly visible division, and some of these guys appear to have some talent or are at least exciting. But there's no pressure and no money for these dudes to fight each other, so they just lounge around taking out journeymen until they get ranked high enough to skip to the contender stage. It's very frustrating.
     
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  9. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The rematches are really slowing things down at the top.

    A tourament format, WBSS style, that gives you a path to skipping the line could energize things among these late blooming prospects.

    Probably the best anyone can hope for is after an undisputed champ is crowned, and perhaps after the inevitable rematch, the sanctioning bodies get aggressive with mandatories and stripping titles and we get 3-4 champs each with their own line of opponents.
     
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  10. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They should start fighting each other to separate the contenders, kind of like JJ/Dubois
     
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  11. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Add J Parker to the list - lately at least

    It is Covid that is mostly slowing things down
     
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  12. Tyistall

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    Amen
    I've been saying this for years now. Fury has two good wins on his resume and no title defenses.
     
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  13. Somali Sanil

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    He actually has the better fighters on his resume. Chisora an Wilder an old wlad are as good as anyone Joshua has fought, an Wilder is more dangerous than anyone joshua has fought
     
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  14. ShovelHook

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    You're a muppet. That's all I have to say.
     
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  15. Surrix

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    Like this.
    The same Hrgovic, ok, maybe not a superstar but looks more dangerous than Pulev.

    People love to pick easy fights for their large boxers.
    Of course sometimes mistakes happens, then boxe doesn't looks too predictable and boring.
    Otherwise. Boring.
     
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