heavyweights who didn't have terrible technical skills

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  1. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Not really. His previous topics would suggest that yes, he is indeed that stupid.

    As to the guy above, yes Ali's style was built on natural talent but ali had a great jab and right hand, educated lateral movement(the best ever in the HW division), good combinations from the outside and he was pretty good at fighting off the ropes and in the clinches... to boot he was an obviously talented ring general, easily one of the best of all time in that category.
     
  2. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Both Lewis & Klitschko have/had all time great jabs.
     
  3. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Lewis? Extremely basic skillset??

    Pffft......PFFFFFFT........MUHUHHHUHHUHHUUUH <------------- my new laugh by the way.
     
  4. tohru222

    tohru222 Member Full Member

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    Bowe but no Klitschkos :rofl
     
  5. unsigned_userv2

    unsigned_userv2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But a good jab or having arms in the proper position for example are skillsets that can be taught regardless of the person's natural ability. IMO Ali got hit too easily from basic hooks to the body (even in his earlier years) which a text book defense could have corrected. However, taking away Ali's skillset and replacing it with a textbook skillset may have also taken away his awkward style which was his advantage (but this is an entirely different issue alltogether).

    And it's the trainers duty to adapt the textbook skills to the fighters ability, so certainly Dundee did his job, but Ali's skills are more the exception than the rule, and side-by-side I'd pick Holmes or Tunney's general skills (closer to the textbook) over Ali's skill.

    ...........................And SNV is in a league of his own. He has his own textbook lol
     
  6. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Decent topic, shitty TS.
     
  7. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    It was true in the beginning, but later on he got some pretty good defensive skills (although his looong arms might have helped).
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    A list like this that does not include Jerry Quarry or Oscar Bonavena clearly reveals your lack of knowledge. Try again after several years of study. In the mean time, get the **** out of here.
     
  9. Tora

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    define your definition of technical skills?
     
  10. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis is in a category above the Klitschkos in terms of skills. While the Klitschkos have mastered the art of fighting tall, that's all they do. Lewis has the skills he would be able to fight people his own size and bigger than himself
     
  11. boxalights

    boxalights Member Full Member

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    if i wanted to include conn, h. johnson, charles, moore, toney, i would have. but they were not natural hw's.

    sorry for my honest loss of insight about walcott. i forgot ibeabuchi and golota too.

    the witherspoon vs norton comparison: get the f outta here, norton wasn't as cagey as witherspoon was.

    for the last time, klitschkos and lewis are basic as hell. bowe was hella advanced
     
  12. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sigh..................

    You can get puncehd 50 times by a flyweight and still warry on walking.

    You only get punched once @ HW to fall unconscious.

    The human brain size remains the same size regardless of the size of the individual.

    The power behind a punch increases with the size of the individual.

    Am I getting through to you?
     
  13. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Have you watched Wlad against McCline, Austin?

    After his shoulder surgery, Vitali fought a 6'8 250 pound guy as a tuneup and won every round. So what are you talking about? Lewis was a great natural athlete, probably more physically talented that the Klitschkos, but he was also easier to hit.
     
  14. Double Jay

    Double Jay Active Member Full Member

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    And the Klitschkos don't fight people the same size as them?
     
  15. Davo

    Davo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly! Super Wlad beat 2 of the greatest fighters over 6 feet in McCline and Austin and you have the nerve to criticise him!?!?!? What are you thinking! Wlad is the P4P greatest ever. Lewis may have been a complete puncher who beat many other TALENTED big guys, but did he beat Jameel McCline? Huh? I didn't think so.