Hector Camacho vs Ricky Hatton

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  1. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tony Baltazar's body punching is better than Hatton's imo, and I don't think he's all that weaker to be honest. Hand speed wise they are about the same. His workrate isn't as high as Hatton's though and his feet are somewhat slower.

    As for Mancini, Hatton is probably a bit stronger but he holds no other edge on Ray, even the version that Hector fought who was past his best.

    As for Camacho vs. Hatton, Camacho would use more foot movement than Floyd did against Hatton. Even though his skills weren't as sharp as Mayweather's defensively, he could still move around at 140, and he could lead Hatton a merry dance I think. Hatton's closing footspeed is good, but his ability to hit moving targets isn't.
     
  2. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chavez? Sloppy? What? :?
     
  3. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think hatton would have fit in well in late 80's.This group of fighters could have made alot of money together,camacho,pazienza,haugen.i believe camacho would have some success with his angles and footwork,but hatton would catch up to him and make it a very physical fight with his body shots,fast feet,fast hands and unusually fast pace. by the second half of the fight camacho would be tired and trying to hit and hold,only to get roughed up.camacho would be more in survival mode and would be the one obviously the worse ware.i would say hatton wins 117-111.
     
  4. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    who did baltazar ever beat but a very young roger mayweather?he lost to howard davis,fringe contender robin blake by ko-9.he lost to rodney moore,camacho,and mcgirt.as well as others not worthy of being mentioned.all lopsided decisions.Hatton is on a different level than baltazar.baltazars name never came up in the pfp rankings.he was a good strong fighter though. little better than urango maybe.as for mancini,he was way past it when he fought camacho.hatton had way faster feet than mancini,he never had any trouble tracking down any fighter.in the case of pacquiao though when he cornered him he didnt like what he caught.
     
  5. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Hatton's name wouldn't have reached any P4P rankings in that era either.
     
  6. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not really true. Camacho's limitations were pretty clear even in his younger days, in my opinion. You just have to know what to look for.

    I'd probably favor him over Hatton, though, depending on the ref's leniency toward Hatton's mauling tactics.
     
  7. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Baltazar beat Howard Davis. My card for the fight:

    Tony Baltazar vs. Howard Davis: 96-93 Baltazar
    Davis: 2,3,6 and 10.
    Baltazar: 4,5 ( 10-8 ),7,8 ( 10-8 ) and 9.
    Round 1 even.


    If you thought this fight was a 'lopsided decision' for Howard you are either useless at scoring fights or haven't even seen it.

    And Hatton did not have way faster feet than Mancini, even an old Mancini.
     
  8. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Camacho hitting and holding is precisely what he SHOULD do to beat Hatton. It's more a positive point for Camacho than a negative. If he ties Hatton up on the inside, what's Hatton's plan B?
     
  9. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But Hatton will hold/wrestle him for the duration of the round provided he has a British ref who will tolerate that ****.
     
  10. PhillyPhan69

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    this could come down to how you score a fight, and which things you favor in scoring ie body shots, soft jabs, fewer but harder punches etc. I remember the camacho mancini fight that I had Mancini winning 116-112 same as 1 judge but the other 2 had it for Camacho 115-113 in a SD. I also remember the ring being huge at team Camacho's insistance realizing the need for more escape room against such continous pressure. I have to believ that they would demand the same stipulation here as well. I think Ricky would apply non stop pressure, while camacho would land the soft jab while backing up trying to establish some kind of distance and tying Hatton up anytime he got trapped on the ropes or corners. hatton does not bring quite the same type of pressure that Mancini did, but I believe that the strategies employed would be the same.

    I would lean towards another SD type of verdict with me giving the nod to Hatton, but unsure of what the other 2 judges would score.
     
  11. MagnaNasakki

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    In England, with Ricky getting benefits from fouling and Camacho getting extreme penalizations from judges and referee's for any negativity, he probably loses a decision.

    Camacho has all the talent to beat Hatton, really, everything he needs. He was just weak mentally and sometimes had issues with desire. This often makes dealing with Hatton types a rough night.

    I think Camacho in a neutral location gets over Hatton, and I think the edge is primarily how horribly Ricky dealt with southpaws. Hector would just land to much to lose.