Hector "Macho" Camacho vs. Azumah Nelson

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  1. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    10x the fighter yet that version would go on to get a gift against lockridge and lose to layne.:lol:

    The majority of this board is picking camacho either way.
     
  2. bxrfan

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    It's Macho Time! for the Macho Man as he would beat Nelson by decision at 130.
     
  3. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It should be obvious to anyone that has seen the Nelson-Gomez fight that it was not the same Gomez as the one that turned up for the Lockridge fight and definitely not the same Gomez as that of the Layne fight.
     
  4. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    its still funny though, everytime there is a camacho thread you say the same ****. Zarate would win in a p4p sense similair to rosario, arguello would beat him the same way rosario did, even though hector clearly won that fight, and now azumah nelson, a man that was inconsistent and significantly smaller and less skilled than camacho is gonna have hecotr running for 12 rounds, get real.
     
  5. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

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    interesting fight. camachos speed would get him a ud.
     
  6. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You mean I'm consistent? Well heaven forbid.

    Hardly a ridiculous opinion.

    Again, hardly a ridiculous opinion.

    Hector did not clearly win that fight. It might be clear in your mind, but not in the minds of many other respected people. More scribes for instance had Hector losing that fight than winning it. It was close and contestable, not clear.

    The reason I like Nelson, as I like Zarate and Arguello to beat Camacho is because he has that power and explosiveness to rattle Camacho, just like Rosario did. Limon and Ramirez were too slow to get to him and Hector beats those fighters all day long. But guys who can punch hard with speed give him trouble and quite frankly I think Camacho wants none of it when he tastes power.

    As for Nelson beating him, I admitted myself that Nelson was inconsistent, but said on his best day at 130 he beats him. I stick to that without any qualms. Nelson forced Whitaker, who could actually fight on the inside and didn't have to hold, to run even after throwing 1000 punches and landing 400+ of them on HIS best night, so why wouldn't he do it to the inferior Camacho?
     
  7. Sweet Pea

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    He wasn't much faster than he was early at 135. He just never faced a top level fighter in his prime other than Ramirez. Nelson was no Ramirez. If you could hit and rough Camacho up, then you could take him off his game. I think Nelson could do that, much more variety and explosiveness in his game than Ramirez. Still a close fight as Camacho would undoubtedly be outboxing him for portions of the fight. But I'll take Nelson by Decision.
     
  8. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I suggest you watch his fight with the very average Rafael Solis and consider what happens when he fights someone much superior in that mould who can actually take a punch as well as give it.
     
  9. RafaelGonzal

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    Azumah was a plodder his footwork isnt anything special. He just stalks in coming foward throwing leather, thats the big difference at 130. Camacho had leg speed and would dart in and out throwing lightning combinations. He was the bigger guy also. Dont get done in by the memory of the later version of Camacho, who is ****. The early Hector had incredible physical gifts, however the idiot in him won out and well what could have been never was. Azumah too stationary Camacho leg speed and combos = decision easy.
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    So why did that not happen against Rosario? Because against a banger like that, he is capable of getting caught with his style. And against someone who throws leather like Nelson, you don't think that's possible?
     
  11. Pat_Lowe

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    Don't you mean skirt? I hate fighters wearing bull**** 'trunks' that look like they are cheerleaders. I loved watching Chavez beat his ass down after he wore that ***gotty **** into the ring
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    :lol:
     
  13. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    130 was Machos best weight at the begining. By the Rosario fight the Cocain and and bad habits were already there, Im talking strictly at 130 at that weight is where he takes Azumah
     
  14. joito3

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    Because Rosario at 135 was a monster ...his power was ridiculous ...not even comparable to Azumah Nelson at 130 its a joke.... Rosario would have knocked Nelson the F out too !

    Nelson's power was nowhere near Rosario's
     
  15. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whilst Rosario was the bigger hitter, I wouldn't say that Nelson had no where near the power of Rosario if we're doing a p4p analysis of them at 130 & 135.

    Nelson knocked out Fenech, Martinez, Leija, Ruelas, Suarez and McDonnell at 130. That's proof enough for me that he had very good power there.

    Rosario at 135 knocked out a past prime Viruet and Bramble, Nazario, Jones and Garza.

    Quite frankly Nelson disposed of a higher calibre of opponents at 130 than Rosario did at 135.

    Of course I still think Rosario was the bigger hitter when you consider that he was on the verge of Ko'ing the rock jawed Ramirez and nearly had Frankie Randall - although a somewhat green Randall- out within 8 rounds and badly staggered Camacho as well.

    Whilst Nelson was not as devastating a pucnher at 130 as Rosario was at 135 I do believe he could do the same thing to Camacho that Rosario did.