Helenius' heavyweight record almost as good as Haye's

Haye is not a natural heavyweight

 

Who did Solis fight to get a title shot? Austin?! Vlad knocked Austin out in the second round without using one right hand! Valouev beat Haye, Haye ran like Hell, did not throw punches, hardly nothing. Was given a gift.

 

Haye's only beaten one FORMER hw titlist, the other was a current and thats why he has that paper belt around his waste. While SNV sucks, he was a current champ, and he wasn't a ridiculously past prime brewster or 260 lb well past prime peter. When you take into consideration Hayes CW record your post just sucks dick.

Adamek took the McBride fight cus he has a contract signed to fight a Klit later in the year. You point out the worst fights on their record, yet what is Roberts best fight? A fat as **** past prime coming off getting ktfo peter? **** by your logic, MCBRIDE BEAT TYSON OMFG ADAMEK HAS BALLS!

 

Was he not a current belt holder? Yes he was, no matter how paper thin it was. I know you were talking about at HW, but when his HW resume is already better and you add in the rest of his resume its really a no contest. To try and deny the rest of their careers to win your argument doesn't make your point anymore valid, it makes it a logical fallacy. Haye is much much accomplished anyway you slice it. Not speaking of accomplishments per se, yet we are talking about ability, so excluding the entirety of both careers and achievements is a ****ing ******ed way to make a point. Go suck the dick of your shitty ass green prospect if you want. I ****ING DESPISE david haye, but your thread is worse. :dead

 

His record is as good as Haye's record at Heavyweight.
Past-Prime Brewster + Past-Prime Peter = Past-Prime Valuev + Past-Prime Ruiz

But I agree, he's not on Haye's level (yet?).

Now it's time to face a prime fighter - Dimitrenko or Chambers.

 

So when talking about the ability of a fighter, only a part of their career should be considered? Ok, I'll give you that steaming pile of ****.

Are you honestly trying to say that beating an old Brewster that had lost 4 of 6 fights, and a Sam Peter that weighed 260 lbs and was coming off getting ktfo is an accomplishment? SNV sucks balls, but he WAS holding a title, shitty decision or not.

Your thread is not strong, your thread wreaks of a biased nordic ******. I am someone who thinks the entire division is garbage and has no horse in the race. Neither has a good heavyweight resume, but the fact remains that Haye has at least beaten 2 CURRENT top 10 ranked heavyweights. Hel has yet to beat a single 1. So go suck the smallest dick you can find, shouldn't be hard, just break a rib and bend over.

 

Brewster was shot but Peter was still between #7 and #13.
His record is better than Solis' record. Peter2011 >>>> Austin2010/11
He would beat the current version of Chagaev, no problem.

 

hypothetically speaking, perhaps. lets see him prove it tho. 15 fights and already two ex-champs. hopefully next will be a fellow top ten

 

peter was between 13 and 20. he's not had a good win in ages and his ranking is based off his name and past accomplishments

 

Ruiz would anilate Brewster at this stage. I'd probly pick him over Peter too but Peter could win that. Valuev clearly beats a fat Peter and shot Brewster. Apart from that Haye's cv is still better - guys like Gammer etc are a league below even Harrison which you should know.
Helinus has some big wins already and is coming along great, in a year or two I'd pick him over Valuev and he could go on to be a really good HW champ.
Got to ask why are you being a dick though and saying things you know are rubbish? Is it to wind up Haye fans?
Also why are some people bringing up race? I'm starting to find a lot of Eastern Euro posters on here have no respect for black fighters.