Helenius is going to dominate Peter...

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  1. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    ...and if I am wrong, then it will be the first time that Peter has ever impresssed me.

    Helenius is a 6'6 power puncher with a useful jab, a solid amatuer background, a killer right, especially to the body, and so far, a solid chin. In only 14 fights, he has useful wins agaisnt Gammer, Bidenko, Olukun, Brewster, Greg Toney, and Atilla Levin.

    Peter is a smallish, overrated and shopeworn toughman type fighter with very little skill and an overrated punch. Yes he has been in with better comp, but he has lost most of his important fights, some of them badly. His two struggles with overweight and shot middleweight James Toney did not impress me at all, nor did his struggle to TKO Maskaev, a guy the has been legitimately taken out much more impressievely before. And we have not even touched upon Sam's weight problems.

    Little Sam with his looping punches is not going to find Helenius with a geiger counter, and he is going to eat jabs all night. I predict he will quit pretty much the same as he did against Vitaly.

    If I am wrong, then I will be the first to say that this is, finally, an impressive win by Peter.
     
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  2. unorthodox

    unorthodox Well-Known Member Full Member

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    peter ko 3
     
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  3. Consu

    Consu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Helenius KO 3
     
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  4. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    This is a fight that I would not bet on. There is just so much uncertainty about it.
     
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  5. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robbe will destroy Peter.
     
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  6. gregor

    gregor Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The same here. Peter could be there only for his paycheck, but he may as well realize it his last chance and do everything to win. At the same time, Helenius may be big and undefeated, but he is still not really tested - the best names on his record are arguably Brewster, Bidenko and Levin, none of them anywhere close to his prime.
     
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  7. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    As stated, I completely disagree. Maskaev and Toney were just not all that impressive when Peter struggled to beat them.
     
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  8. Bill Patrice

    Bill Patrice Member Full Member

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    Helenius looks like an excellent prospect, but he is still very raw. He is no Klitschko brother that's for sure. I don't think he can keep active fighters at range with his jab yet. He's not that hard to tag clean, and perhaps most crucially he backs up in straight lines. If Peter is motivated and in shape I think it's well within the realm of possibility that he catches Helenius with a fast counter right hand or even one of those wild looping punches thus ending the fight early and shockingly for Helenius's people.

    For me Sam has suffered from bad matchmaking simple as that. After he won the title he had to fight Vitali in his FIRST defence. Since his comeback he never got the chance to fight: Adamek/Povetkin/Solis/Chagaev or anyone else close to his size. He was rushed back in waay too fast against Wladimir, and now he's fighting another 6,6 heavyweight. Sam struggles with tall fighters, this is bad matchmaking on his team's part. I would rather see him fight Adamek. The whole situation seems to suggest Helenius offered pretty good money, and that they want to pad the already sizeable assets Peter has acquired, hope I'm wrong.
     
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  9. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    You conveniently forgot loosing to a chubby (though talented) cruiser in Chambers and struggling against a middleweight in Toney. Even Maskaev was an unimpressive win.

    He had his chances to shine- he's just not that good.

    Helenius in 6 or 7.
     
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  10. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    It's a little silly to call the guy that went to war and won against Jirov at cruiserweight, then really, despite the record, beat John Ruiz at heavyweight, a middleweight as to dismiss that it takes someone of a certain level to have beaten him then at heavy. And Chambers a cruiserweight just because he probably could make that weight? The guy was once 30-0 as a heavyweight and never to my knowledge was in a cruiserweight fight. Why don't we call him a small heavyweight instead? It's all he's shown to be.
     
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  11. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Is this fight televised in the US? I have HBO and Showtime....................
     
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  12. HAYEDAJOKE

    HAYEDAJOKE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gonna be the bestHW fight in a while
     
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  13. irishny

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    Ill wait until Peter weighs in before making my mind up. 240ish,I think he wins it.

    Up near 260,he is there for a paycheque
     
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  14. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney is borderline ATG
     
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  15. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    In case you do not remember, he was on steroids for his best heavyweight "wins." So it is you who are being silly.

    In any event, in a couple of days, we will see if my analysis is correct.
     
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